Bali keris hilt - to glue or thread?

Rick · 14th October 2005, 04:37 PM

If someone wants to use old records I've got a bunch of 78 rpm's from the 1920's hanging around .

I believe they're made from lacquer .

Marto , were these ever used as a material for ukiran or handle carvings ?

nechesh · 14th October 2005, 06:50 PM

Interesting question Rick, since every now and then we see hilts that appear to have a bit of age yet are made out of highly questionable materials. Could these be old "Rudy Valee" ukirans.

As to wrappings, sometimes i think it depends on how much space there is to fill. Sometimes you get a rather large hole with a fairly thin pesi. I usually use a cotton fiber cloth and finish with some magician's silk i've had around for a while. The silk is vey squishy when wrapped and has a lot of give. Then, i've got on blade where the fit of pesi to hilt is so matched that i use no material at all.
Marto mentioned hair which i find very interesting. I've had one keris that came to me this way. I like the idea of it from a magickal perspective. It is my understanding that this is a fairly recent practice (last couple of hundred years, 1800 on or so). Do you know any more about this Marto?

Rick · 14th October 2005, 10:16 PM

My oldest keris has a hair wrapped peksi .

Battara · 15th October 2005, 04:59 AM

Well, let me say that I don't have a particularly peski peksi.

It is a little thicker and the advice of thread explains why I see this more than cloth, although I have seen cloth. Thank you so much. Another reason why I love this forum (and you folks - great humor

). Thread it is, and I'll keep my records.

nechesh · 15th October 2005, 05:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick

My oldest keris has a hair wrapped peksi .

Of course, just because it's your oldest keris we'll never know truly when it was put there.

14th October 2005, 04:37 PM	#1
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,376	Well ....... If someone wants to use old records I've got a bunch of 78 rpm's from the 1920's hanging around . I believe they're made from lacquer . Marto , were these ever used as a material for ukiran or handle carvings ?

15th October 2005, 04:59 AM	#4
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,342	Well, let me say that I don't have a particularly peski peksi. It is a little thicker and the advice of thread explains why I see this more than cloth, although I have seen cloth. Thank you so much. Another reason why I love this forum (and you folks - great humor). Thread it is, and I'll keep my records.

14th October 2005, 06:50 PM	#2
nechesh Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 940	Interesting question Rick, since every now and then we see hilts that appear to have a bit of age yet are made out of highly questionable materials. Could these be old "Rudy Valee" ukirans. As to wrappings, sometimes i think it depends on how much space there is to fill. Sometimes you get a rather large hole with a fairly thin pesi. I usually use a cotton fiber cloth and finish with some magician's silk i've had around for a while. The silk is vey squishy when wrapped and has a lot of give. Then, i've got on blade where the fit of pesi to hilt is so matched that i use no material at all. Marto mentioned hair which i find very interesting. I've had one keris that came to me this way. I like the idea of it from a magickal perspective. It is my understanding that this is a fairly recent practice (last couple of hundred years, 1800 on or so). Do you know any more about this Marto?

14th October 2005, 10:16 PM	#3
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,376	My oldest keris has a hair wrapped peksi .