Smallsword hilted Spadroon

Richard G · 22nd April 2013, 01:31 PM

The blade seems to me to have most of the characteristics of those "Runkel" blades of the early 19th Cent.
Regards
Richard

Norman McCormick · 22nd April 2013, 07:13 PM

Hi Kisak,
Many thanks for the images, not ones I have seen before.

Hi Richard,
Although this type of blade and decoration extended into the early 19thC I'm certain this blade is contemporary with the hilt C1760.

My Regards,
Norman.

Hotspur · 25th April 2013, 02:57 AM

The little squiggle on the base of the blade seems like a Solingen specific mark, just as the wolf had been for Passau. A guild mark (my thoughts).

Cheers

GC

Norman McCormick · 25th April 2013, 04:49 PM

Hi Glen,
Seems possible, I'm sure I've seen the same or similar on other blades, still trying to find some more examples.
My Regards,
Norman.

Hotspur · 25th April 2013, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Norman McCormick

Hi Glen,
Seems possible, I'm sure I've seen the same or similar on other blades, still trying to find some more examples.
My Regards,
Norman.

I do have a few buried in files somewhere for Soligen made swords up into the 19th century. Some have stated it specifically regards Schnitzler&Kirshbaum (iirc, one of them anyway), as an export agent but considering the variety I have seen it on I don't believe it to be a specific company. Possibly a single bladeworks but my gut says it represents the entire city and all the forges. It does sometimes show up on Soligen stamped in along with the spine mark but often without and waht seem to be earlier blades. I think Solingen blade history could be a life study in and of itself.

Wagner may have notes in his book but I do not own his tome that also shows the Passau marks.

Cheers

GC

Norman McCormick · 28th April 2013, 01:08 PM

Hi Glen,
Thanks for the further suggestions. I'm sure I've seen this or similar on older blades but for the life of me I can't remember where

It seems too complex for a makers mark also it's engraved and not stamped, quality or guild mark maybe? Probably I'll come across a clue when I least expect it but to me that's part of the game and the chase

Thanks again.
My Regards,
Norman.

Norman McCormick · 19th July 2013, 01:46 PM

Hi,
Some striking similarities in hilt decor and construction.
Regards,
Norman.

19th July 2013, 01:46 PM	#7
Norman McCormick Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,646	Hi, Some striking similarities in hilt decor and construction. Regards, Norman. Attached Images

22nd April 2013, 01:31 PM	#1
Richard G Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 415	The blade seems to me to have most of the characteristics of those "Runkel" blades of the early 19th Cent. Regards Richard

22nd April 2013, 07:13 PM	#2
Norman McCormick Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,646	Hi Kisak, Many thanks for the images, not ones I have seen before. Hi Richard, Although this type of blade and decoration extended into the early 19thC I'm certain this blade is contemporary with the hilt C1760. My Regards, Norman.

25th April 2013, 02:57 AM	#3
Hotspur Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Nipmuc USA Posts: 535	The little squiggle on the base of the blade seems like a Solingen specific mark, just as the wolf had been for Passau. A guild mark (my thoughts). Cheers GC

25th April 2013, 04:49 PM	#4
Norman McCormick Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,646	Hi Glen, Seems possible, I'm sure I've seen the same or similar on other blades, still trying to find some more examples. My Regards, Norman.

28th April 2013, 01:08 PM	#6
Norman McCormick Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,646	Hi Glen, Thanks for the further suggestions. I'm sure I've seen this or similar on older blades but for the life of me I can't remember where It seems too complex for a makers mark also it's engraved and not stamped, quality or guild mark maybe? Probably I'll come across a clue when I least expect it but to me that's part of the game and the chase Thanks again. My Regards, Norman.