Unusual Malay Pusaka !!!

Tim Simmons · 8th October 2005, 02:59 PM

Could it be some sort of symbolic reference to a sacrificial post. Like that of the Khond "Meriah" sacrifice and other more symbolic sacrifice throughout Hindu culture. You read that some objects themselves can become venerable. Just thinking aloud. Tim

nechesh · 8th October 2005, 08:11 PM

Interesting item. I just want to make sure my conversions are correct. 66 pounds you say!

You're right, can't see anyone weilding that around.
What makes you qualify this as pusaka? I know there have been many conflicting opinions on what qualifies something as pusaka. How did you acquire this? Did it's previous owner have no clue as to it's original purpose? I would assume (perhaps incorrectly

) that a pusaka which has passed hands across generations would come with some stories, especially to purpose when it is not as obvious as a keris blade.

mykeris · 9th October 2005, 06:04 AM

Thanks Tim, I think you are right. It could be one of the possibilities. It does look about similar with the image you posted. TQ. To be more specific, this pusaka is a laminated item.Thickness equivalent to about 2.5 inches whereas Keris laminated blade is about 'a small portion' of an inch. I am sure, this item took real, really longer time to be accomplished. It must be something specially sacred.

To you Nechesh, I got this thru somebody, who really in need of money. Since you insist, I will tell you the ghost story

. I was told, this item was brought from Palembang(Indonesia) to Malacca ( 14th Century ?) by the first Hindu Sultan of Malacca, Parameswara ,who later converted himself to Islam. It was supposed to be one of his most important final inauguration tools (??) . Nechesh, is nice listening to this story but do not get carried away

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Is it a Hindu Gandhar (Gadhar ..spelling??) of the Indonesian Pajajaran/Majapahit period?

8th October 2005, 02:59 PM	#1
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,925	Could it be some sort of symbolic reference to a sacrificial post. Like that of the Khond "Meriah" sacrifice and other more symbolic sacrifice throughout Hindu culture. You read that some objects themselves can become venerable. Just thinking aloud. Tim Attached Images

8th October 2005, 08:11 PM	#2
nechesh Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 940	Interesting item. I just want to make sure my conversions are correct. 66 pounds you say! You're right, can't see anyone weilding that around. What makes you qualify this as pusaka? I know there have been many conflicting opinions on what qualifies something as pusaka. How did you acquire this? Did it's previous owner have no clue as to it's original purpose? I would assume (perhaps incorrectly ) that a pusaka which has passed hands across generations would come with some stories, especially to purpose when it is not as obvious as a keris blade.

9th October 2005, 06:04 AM	#3
mykeris Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 278	Thanks Tim, I think you are right. It could be one of the possibilities. It does look about similar with the image you posted. TQ. To be more specific, this pusaka is a laminated item.Thickness equivalent to about 2.5 inches whereas Keris laminated blade is about 'a small portion' of an inch. I am sure, this item took real, really longer time to be accomplished. It must be something specially sacred. To you Nechesh, I got this thru somebody, who really in need of money. Since you insist, I will tell you the ghost story . I was told, this item was brought from Palembang(Indonesia) to Malacca ( 14th Century ?) by the first Hindu Sultan of Malacca, Parameswara ,who later converted himself to Islam. It was supposed to be one of his most important final inauguration tools (??) . Nechesh, is nice listening to this story but do not get carried away . Is it a Hindu Gandhar (Gadhar ..spelling??) of the Indonesian Pajajaran/Majapahit period?