painted Keris

A. G. Maisey · 18th March 2013, 03:53 AM

I'm pretty much with Jean all the way on this.

The motif could be given as "lung-lungan", or "vines".

The sunggingan work is quite inferior, the sort of thing you'd buy already done from a market stall. I doubt that it is very old, I think its just had a hard life. The green pendok is correct colour for wear by a person in the Surakarta Karaton with the rank of mentri. The finish on these pendok is traditionally a sort of enamel that we call "kemalo", it is extremely fragile and in an older keris is almost always cracked and peeling off in lumps. More recent pendok are finished in auto enamel, which is much more durable.

Blade style is probably attributable to north coast Jawa, but the width of the blumbangan and kembang kacang form means that it would very probably be given a tangguh of Segaluh.

chregu · 19th March 2013, 08:40 PM

hello together

I thank you all very much for the interesting information.
I cleaned the waranka (cotton and little soap) and then oiled.
Now the colors light up again, looks great, has a lot of joy in it.
will again set pictures as soon as I have time in the day to take pictures.
many thanks again to all who responded.

many greetings
Chregu

chregu · 24th March 2013, 04:43 PM

hello together
I am again rely on some help
the word "mentri" do not translate. what is it?

also the set
"Blade style is probably able to attribute north coast Jawa, but the width of the blum bangan Kembang kacang and shape means that it would very probably be given a Tangguh of Segaluh"
I can not really understand. sorry am not a specialist keris.

greetings Chregu

Sajen · 24th March 2013, 06:03 PM

Mentri means minister in free translation. Keris with green kemalo pendoks are worn by this persons in the keraton of Solo.

Segaluh is a tangguh from West Java. The shape of the blade let Alan think that this blade can be attributed to this tangguh.

Regards,

Detlef

Marcokeris · 24th March 2013, 11:04 PM

Could be a tritik pamor?

24th March 2013, 04:43 PM	#3
chregu Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: switzerland Posts: 298	hello together I am again rely on some help the word "mentri" do not translate. what is it? also the set "Blade style is probably able to attribute north coast Jawa, but the width of the blum bangan Kembang kacang and shape means that it would very probably be given a Tangguh of Segaluh" I can not really understand. sorry am not a specialist keris. greetings Chregu Attached Images

18th March 2013, 03:53 AM	#1
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,991	I'm pretty much with Jean all the way on this. The motif could be given as "lung-lungan", or "vines". The sunggingan work is quite inferior, the sort of thing you'd buy already done from a market stall. I doubt that it is very old, I think its just had a hard life. The green pendok is correct colour for wear by a person in the Surakarta Karaton with the rank of mentri. The finish on these pendok is traditionally a sort of enamel that we call "kemalo", it is extremely fragile and in an older keris is almost always cracked and peeling off in lumps. More recent pendok are finished in auto enamel, which is much more durable. Blade style is probably attributable to north coast Jawa, but the width of the blumbangan and kembang kacang form means that it would very probably be given a tangguh of Segaluh.

19th March 2013, 08:40 PM	#2
chregu Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: switzerland Posts: 298	hello together I thank you all very much for the interesting information. I cleaned the waranka (cotton and little soap) and then oiled. Now the colors light up again, looks great, has a lot of joy in it. will again set pictures as soon as I have time in the day to take pictures. many thanks again to all who responded. many greetings Chregu

24th March 2013, 06:03 PM	#4
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,164	Mentri means minister in free translation. Keris with green kemalo pendoks are worn by this persons in the keraton of Solo. Segaluh is a tangguh from West Java. The shape of the blade let Alan think that this blade can be attributed to this tangguh. Regards, Detlef

24th March 2013, 11:04 PM	#5
Marcokeris Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Italy Posts: 928	Could be a tritik pamor?