My Keris: Newly Made Of Painted Sheath

Mick · 31st December 2004, 08:45 PM

Here are a couple of the old versions.

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The following is the more common version. Note that the sheath has been recarved for the keris now encased. The correct fitting is between the parrell lines in the area bounded by the fish scale motif.

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These pictures have been a little jazzed up in a photo program. The first piece has gold leaf as part of the work and both have been covered with some protective shellac which has darkened a little with age. It would take a painting restorer to bring them back to life without destroying the original work.

Ok guys what happened??? These are 640X480 and under190KB in size.

Mick · 31st December 2004, 09:26 PM

Here are the pictures.

Mick · 31st December 2004, 09:32 PM

Missed one

nechesh · 31st December 2004, 10:52 PM

Thanks Mick for showing us these earlier examples. I wonder what happened to the blades these wrongko were originally made for. Even if fully restored it seems that the old school sheath painters had a more sublte sense of color.
That's a pretty meaty gonjo you've got on the gayaman wrongko. Whatcha got in there?

Mick · 1st January 2005, 03:33 AM

Nechesh

If you saw the picture of the piece with the carved peacock instead of the normal kembang kacang that I pictured here a year or so ago, that's what is in this sheath.

DhenTal · 3rd February 2005, 06:58 PM

I like the photos in this thread. Looks so cool almost the piece are a real new.
Some Scabbards looks like an old.. but actually is a new made too.
I can't understand.. how forumities suppose that the piece is a good made and old ?
The real old Sunggingan scabbards have a good painting. Look into Ensiklopedia Keris p:448 and Lampiran. That is a real old Sunggingan which made by a Expert Mranggi.

Ria Scabbards more Maduranese than Solonese. At Sumenep, the scabbard like this was sale with a cheap. It more used to tourist consumption. It have a coarse painting.
The Kriss called Pandawa Lok 5, looks like a panjak or common blacksmith. but it is an old piece. If I look clooser, the iron like a Sultan Agung period. The curve at wadidang and gonjo look not too appropriate.
Looks like the Ron Dha at gonjo was brokken, but not.. just not appropriate.

Mick posted better than Ria. The Sunggingan more smooth with an old pendok blewah, old mendak by parinjata and Untu Walang models. The mendaks made by Solonese style. The hilt is old too. It have a good carved (patra).... although it is a new sunggingan too for tourist consumption not too old than 1960, although the scabbard is an old. But.. all of Mick poste is Solonese style, from scabbard 'till the mendaks.
Btw..., The kriss inside, looks like a new kriss. Kriss with Ron Genduru pamor put into ladrang scabbard... and ngulit semongko or wos wutoh at gayaman scabard.
These is just my opinion, it can be wrong....

derek · 3rd February 2005, 08:47 PM

Hi Mick,

I noticed on your example the sun, moon, star, and earth (?) depicted twice. One with a symbol on the earth (if that's what it is) that implies something entering, one the other with a symbol that implies something coming out of the earth. Do you know what that represents?

-d

31st December 2004, 08:45 PM	#1
Mick Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Orlando Posts: 104	Here are a couple of the old versions. [IMG]DSC00006a[/IMG] [IMG]DSC00002a[/IMG] [IMG]DSC00004a[/IMG] [IMG]DSC00005a[/IMG] The following is the more common version. Note that the sheath has been recarved for the keris now encased. The correct fitting is between the parrell lines in the area bounded by the fish scale motif. [IMG]DSC00008a[/IMG] [IMG]DSC00009a[/IMG] [IMG]DSC00010a[/IMG] These pictures have been a little jazzed up in a photo program. The first piece has gold leaf as part of the work and both have been covered with some protective shellac which has darkened a little with age. It would take a painting restorer to bring them back to life without destroying the original work. Ok guys what happened??? These are 640X480 and under190KB in size. Last edited by Mick; 31st December 2004 at 08:49 PM. Reason: Photos did not atach

31st December 2004, 09:26 PM	#2
Mick Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Orlando Posts: 104	Here are the pictures. Attached Images

31st December 2004, 09:32 PM	#3
Mick Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Orlando Posts: 104	Missed one Attached Images

3rd February 2005, 06:58 PM	#6
DhenTal Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 20	Sunggingan ??? I like the photos in this thread. Looks so cool almost the piece are a real new. Some Scabbards looks like an old.. but actually is a new made too. I can't understand.. how forumities suppose that the piece is a good made and old ? The real old Sunggingan scabbards have a good painting. Look into Ensiklopedia Keris p:448 and Lampiran. That is a real old Sunggingan which made by a Expert Mranggi. Ria Scabbards more Maduranese than Solonese. At Sumenep, the scabbard like this was sale with a cheap. It more used to tourist consumption. It have a coarse painting. The Kriss called Pandawa Lok 5, looks like a panjak or common blacksmith. but it is an old piece. If I look clooser, the iron like a Sultan Agung period. The curve at wadidang and gonjo look not too appropriate. Looks like the Ron Dha at gonjo was brokken, but not.. just not appropriate. Mick posted better than Ria. The Sunggingan more smooth with an old pendok blewah, old mendak by parinjata and Untu Walang models. The mendaks made by Solonese style. The hilt is old too. It have a good carved (patra).... although it is a new sunggingan too for tourist consumption not too old than 1960, although the scabbard is an old. But.. all of Mick poste is Solonese style, from scabbard 'till the mendaks. Btw..., The kriss inside, looks like a new kriss. Kriss with Ron Genduru pamor put into ladrang scabbard... and ngulit semongko or wos wutoh at gayaman scabard. These is just my opinion, it can be wrong....

3rd February 2005, 08:47 PM	#7
derek Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 215	Sun, Moon, Stars, and Earth? Hi Mick, I noticed on your example the sun, moon, star, and earth (?) depicted twice. One with a symbol on the earth (if that's what it is) that implies something entering, one the other with a symbol that implies something coming out of the earth. Do you know what that represents? -d

31st December 2004, 10:52 PM	#4
nechesh Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 940	Thanks Mick for showing us these earlier examples. I wonder what happened to the blades these wrongko were originally made for. Even if fully restored it seems that the old school sheath painters had a more sublte sense of color. That's a pretty meaty gonjo you've got on the gayaman wrongko. Whatcha got in there?

1st January 2005, 03:33 AM	#5
Mick Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Orlando Posts: 104	Nechesh If you saw the picture of the piece with the carved peacock instead of the normal kembang kacang that I pictured here a year or so ago, that's what is in this sheath.