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Old 26th January 2013, 04:17 PM   #1
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I upload the pictures that laEspadaAncha requested.I did the best i can.I dont know if the result is the best.
Norman thanks for the illustrations.Very helpfull!!!
The stones are emeralds.I have checked them today.The two of them are broken but the others are in good condition.
Also Dom the Aga is a high rank officers title.Isn't it.Or in that case is just a name?
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Old 26th January 2013, 05:26 PM   #2
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Also Dom the Aga is a high rank officers title.Isn't it.Or in that case is just a name?
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Question: Isn't an Aga a type of commander in the old Ottoman armies?
yes, Agha was a rank in Ottoman army,
was at least (see wikipedia) 6 kinds of "Agha" some are "commander" for very small unities

more reasonable;
- if it's a title ... where is the name ?
- I doubt that a blacksmith could have a title of "Aga" ...
and again, where is his name ?
every time, "AMAL" it's following by a name

- I guess that the name mentioned after "AMAL" it's may be mistranslated by us,
don't forget that Ottoman language is unknown for us,
the translator, is using her Arabic knowledge, possible to have some distortion ... at end

was the meaning of my advice when I wrote ;
- the pic it's OK, just the name is unusual for us, coze not Arabic,
so, it's possible if my friend "Zifir" pass by, he could correct it,


I'm confused at not being able to meet your expectations

all the best

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Old 26th January 2013, 06:08 PM   #3
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I think we are not looking at a standard Muslim or Turkish name. Just an opinion but this might be a non-Muslim name or a nickname. There are possible combinations but nothing exact. It might be:

a(e)-h- a(e) -l - i

or with a little bit overstretching it can be read as adalı (meaning "from island") and might be a nickname.

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Old 27th January 2013, 02:55 PM   #4
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Dear Dom and Zifir.
Thanks a lot for your answers and you efffort.
I understand the translation difficulty for such words.
Thanks a lot again.
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