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Old 22nd January 2013, 02:54 PM   #1
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Fernando, you are far too modest, actually your assessments and observations are of course always soundly placed, and I very much like your wording in noting the rural ambience on these stirrups. I agree that the Stone caption suggests the German provenance somewhat questionable, and offers little support for my speculation, but I thought I would add it anyway for the sake of outward thinking.
I still hold to the idea that these footplates are compellingly similar to ranch and cattle brands and logos.

Cerjak, outstanding comparison you have found with the Georgian pair of stirrups! and reflects that sort of neoclassicism indeed. As you have noted these seem in remarkable condition, but traditional forms extended use far beyond changes in the regular military units in the yeomanry regiments.
I would note here that my original suggestion of influence on 'western' trappings from German sources could equally apply to English instances.
England was a prolific supplier of goods in addition to the obvious cultural influences to America. It is interesting that even the majority of 'Bowie' knives in the 19th century were Sheffield produced, as were many guns and other items which were prevalent in the 'wild west'.

I just wanted to thank you guys for the very kind responses, especially in the personal recognition toward my observations. It is apparantly a waning courtesy in altogether too many instances on other venues, and as I admit to being a bit old fashioned, it is very much appreciated. I will see if I can get a scan of the Stone image pending some technical difficulties with scanning here.

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Old 22nd January 2013, 04:46 PM   #2
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Hello friends
you are wrong
both are French two civilians
the first is 19th so-called has the gardianne
the second called Stirrups a bench grinder is 18th


I have collectione bits, Stirrups, spurs for more than 20 years


believe that still me have a pair I you put a picture
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Old 22nd January 2013, 05:00 PM   #3
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Here is a photo a pair "French stirrups has the gardianne)




and a few pictures of parts that I kept
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Old 22nd January 2013, 05:08 PM   #4
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Great collection.
Thanks for sharing.
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Old 22nd January 2013, 06:13 PM   #5
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Thanks weapons.
I never mind being wrong as long as I can learn from the matter in discussion and corrected data. Since this is a most esoteric topic it is a welcome addition to our threads here.
The main thing is that we all learn when information is shared.
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Old 22nd January 2013, 08:45 PM   #6
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Well Jim, in a way, stirrups for Rural Ranch Cowboys, only in the French version: Gardiens de taureaux de la Camargue


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Old 23rd January 2013, 05:46 AM   #7
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Well Jim, in a way, stirrups for Rural Ranch Cowboys, only in the French version: Gardiens de taureaux de la Camargue


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These Stirrups are different from the model shown

I will attach a picture in the day
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Old 27th January 2013, 08:16 PM   #8
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Here is a photo a pair "French stirrups has the gardianne)




and a few pictures of parts that I kept
ManyThanks weapons.

As I can see you have great collection

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Old 27th January 2013, 10:07 PM   #9
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http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=13808


Please, some comentary about it

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Old 29th January 2013, 05:29 AM   #10
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http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=13808


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regarding the origin of this stirrup, there is much to say. The majority comes from Europe, Poursin in Paris, which still displays in its showcase or the Belgian manufacturer Hersall, especially gun manufacturer. These manufacturers have sold in all of South America and even elsewhere: I saw at the Museum of the army in Athens or indicated by Greek general!Basically, they were used by elders who could pay them.See exhibit attached, extracted from Plateria Sudamericana, A Taullard, 1941.

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Old 29th January 2013, 12:52 PM   #11
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Very nice genuine example supported by a notable background.
The problem with these things is that you find out there modern reproductions so 'well aged' that they fool anyone's eye.

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