old ivory hilt for share

T. Koch · 21st January 2013, 08:31 PM

Agreed and thanks for clarifying!

- Thor

Paul B. · 6th February 2020, 08:36 AM

I want to share a rather unusual ivory handle from Surakarta for claryfication.
It is shown in the pictured book and texting says: 'cat eaten by a snake' even if the pic shows a rather doggy head?

David · 6th February 2020, 07:40 PM

Nice example. I have seen this odd form before somewhere. Yes, i am not certain about the description in the book. It doesn't quite look like a cat to me. In any case i would be curious to understand the meaning behind this symbolism. Perhaps there is a folktale that applies here.

Paul B. · 7th February 2020, 06:46 AM

The rendering shows a cat if I look at the small almost hidden ears. Mine clearly shows doglike ears. Anyone else having a clue?

mariusgmioc · 7th February 2020, 10:33 PM

Question : what is a keris hilt?!

1. something attached to a keris to serve as a hilt or...

2. something that is made with the purpose to serve as hilt for a keris?!

Paul B. · 9th February 2020, 08:38 AM

Maybe someone can enlight me about the pamor involved. Is there more then one pamor (dwiwarna?) or do I look at a (worn) kind of Toya mambeg or karawelang?

Jean · 9th February 2020, 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul B.

do I look at a (worn) kind of Toya mambeg or karawelang?

Yes, I think so. Congrats for the rare hilt also.

6th February 2020, 08:36 AM	#2
Paul B. Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Posts: 205	I want to share a rather unusual ivory handle from Surakarta for claryfication. It is shown in the pictured book and texting says: 'cat eaten by a snake' even if the pic shows a rather doggy head? Attached Images

9th February 2020, 08:38 AM	#6
Paul B. Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Posts: 205	Maybe someone can enlight me about the pamor involved. Is there more then one pamor (dwiwarna?) or do I look at a (worn) kind of Toya mambeg or karawelang? Attached Images

21st January 2013, 08:31 PM	#1
T. Koch Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Mother North Posts: 189	Agreed and thanks for clarifying! - Thor

6th February 2020, 07:40 PM	#3
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,250	Nice example. I have seen this odd form before somewhere. Yes, i am not certain about the description in the book. It doesn't quite look like a cat to me. In any case i would be curious to understand the meaning behind this symbolism. Perhaps there is a folktale that applies here.

7th February 2020, 06:46 AM	#4
Paul B. Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Posts: 205	The rendering shows a cat if I look at the small almost hidden ears. Mine clearly shows doglike ears. Anyone else having a clue?

7th February 2020, 10:33 PM	#5
mariusgmioc Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Austria Posts: 1,912	Question : what is a keris hilt?! 1. something attached to a keris to serve as a hilt or... 2. something that is made with the purpose to serve as hilt for a keris?!