18 centuries China that I collect , the compound bow of bull tendon and bull horn an

fengmodao · 27th September 2005, 11:11 AM

Hi Chris:
The energy of bow is that to come from in 15000 Kgfs Horn Cm/kg with wooden 11000 Kgfs Cm/kg, the majorest is Sinew25000 Kgf Cm/kg and can many layers of bedding . So physical strength bending can be infinite greatly . As long as you have physical strength using enough it .

But everybody does not think that the bamboo wood that this is general expects , and will soak as a result of paint when the system is bent - > is dry - > paint - >'s complicated worker's order such as dry etc , and when painting dryly , the sour double key of his not saturated fat is by oxygen attack and opening , mutually forms ether key and cross-linking . The major functional group hydroxyl of Mu Zhu fibre also can be attacked the double key , and the paint mutually cross-linking in dry condition evaporation . The compound material that forms so , and pure Mu Zhu is different completely . Still having other participation like horn , muscle and glue etc material , the many of strength far are eager to excel than the single material .

The cord with Pi Ningcheng of animal of bowstring is made . The chord in this picture is made with the skin of donkey , and the rub that the vegetable oil repeats is used , and can achieving transparent effect is beautiful . The thread that still can use the cotton to make is that is more difficultly to make and is that noble uses .

VANDOO · 28th September 2005, 04:40 AM

INTERESTING INFORMATION.
ARE THERE FACTORYS STILL MAKING THESE BOWS TODAY OR ARE THEY BEING MADE BY A FEW INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE PASSED DOWN THE TECKNIQUES THRU SEVERAL GENERATIONS? I HAVE NEVER SEEN A RECENTLY MADE BOW OF THIS TYPE ALL I HAVE SEEN WERE ANTIQUE AND IN NO CONDITION TO RISK STRINGING OR SHOOTING. WE HAVE BOW HUNTING SEASON HERE FOR MOST GAME AND USE BOWS FROM 50 POUNDS TO OVER 100 POUNDS PULL MOST BEING COMPOUND BOWS. ARE THERE HUNTING SEASONS IN CHINA AND DOES ANYONE STILL USE THE OLD BOWS THAT YOU DESCRIBE?
IN ONE OF THE OLD POSTS THERE WERE PICTURES OF QUITE A FEW DIFFERENT ANTIQUE JAPANESE ARROW POINTS DO YOU HAVE A VARIETY OF CHINESE POINTS IN YOUR COLLECTION?
SINUEW MADE FROM ANIMAL TENDONS AS WELL AS SKIN WERE SOMETIMES USED BY NATIVE AMERICANS FOR WEAPONS MANUFACTURE

Chris Evans · 28th September 2005, 06:47 AM

Hi fengmodao,

Thanks for that information. Could you post some pictures of arrows?

Cheers
Chris

fengmodao · 28th September 2005, 11:19 AM

1=This is the arrow of complete China Qing imperial court particular period . ( it is not mine )

2=The arrowhead that this is the China Qing imperial court ( Christian era 1644-- Christian era 1911 ) , complete iron makes , and the effect is varied .

3=This is the China Zhou imperial court ( 1066 before the Christian era ---221 before the Christian era ) the arrowhead of particular period . Its raw material is the alloy of copper . The outer mould of flowline . It is ancient .

Mark · 28th September 2005, 02:53 PM

This is a fascinating thread. The fletching (feathers) on the arrow are unusual to my Western eyes -- very long. I wonder what effect it would have on the flight stability of the arrow? One the one hand, I can see it increasing from the greater surface area of the "wings," but on the other I can see it affecting the balance of the arrow and making it "back heavy."

micas · 28th September 2005, 03:50 PM

This reminded me that I have some pics I took of bronze weapons in Xian (Terracotta army exhibit and Shanxi Provincial History Museum).

From the Zhou Dynasty (c.1100-256 BCE) to Qin Dynasty (221-205 BC). The frog design dagger axe head from the earlier Shang Dynasty (c.1600-1046 BC).

micas · 28th September 2005, 04:09 PM

I was absolutely fascinated by that gold handled dagger. Love the craftsmanship in the goldwork. Notice that it's missing some of the embedded jade pieces.

fengmodao · 28th September 2005, 05:00 PM

This is the feather of eagle . The arrow that the tiptop waited can be used , the goose , the wild goose can not than . Feather length can make that what flies distant the arrow . The stable pneumatic outer mould that this was the best in more distant ancientry .

The sword of Qin imperial court ( 221-205 before the Christian era ) is the miracle simply ! The sword of 100 centimetres that the tomb Qin emperor was found is winding by the heavy object pressure time discoverys , forms " the shape form of L" , but moving the heavy object opens as people , it has recovered the state sharp immediately . All shock more than 100 archaeology men and scientist that digs up the field . Am I surprised to this right and wrong Chang Ling , and who knows the expert of metal ? The explanation tells I this probably ?

27th September 2005, 11:11 AM	#1
fengmodao Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: beijing Posts: 29	Hi Chris: The energy of bow is that to come from in 15000 Kgfs Horn Cm/kg with wooden 11000 Kgfs Cm/kg, the majorest is Sinew25000 Kgf Cm/kg and can many layers of bedding . So physical strength bending can be infinite greatly . As long as you have physical strength using enough it . But everybody does not think that the bamboo wood that this is general expects , and will soak as a result of paint when the system is bent - > is dry - > paint - >'s complicated worker's order such as dry etc , and when painting dryly , the sour double key of his not saturated fat is by oxygen attack and opening , mutually forms ether key and cross-linking . The major functional group hydroxyl of Mu Zhu fibre also can be attacked the double key , and the paint mutually cross-linking in dry condition evaporation . The compound material that forms so , and pure Mu Zhu is different completely . Still having other participation like horn , muscle and glue etc material , the many of strength far are eager to excel than the single material . The cord with Pi Ningcheng of animal of bowstring is made . The chord in this picture is made with the skin of donkey , and the rub that the vegetable oil repeats is used , and can achieving transparent effect is beautiful . The thread that still can use the cotton to make is that is more difficultly to make and is that noble uses . Attached Images

28th September 2005, 11:19 AM	#4
fengmodao Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: beijing Posts: 29	1=This is the arrow of complete China Qing imperial court particular period . ( it is not mine ) 2=The arrowhead that this is the China Qing imperial court ( Christian era 1644-- Christian era 1911 ) , complete iron makes , and the effect is varied . 3=This is the China Zhou imperial court ( 1066 before the Christian era ---221 before the Christian era ) the arrowhead of particular period . Its raw material is the alloy of copper . The outer mould of flowline . It is ancient . Attached Images

28th September 2005, 03:50 PM	#6
micas Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 30	This reminded me that I have some pics I took of bronze weapons in Xian (Terracotta army exhibit and Shanxi Provincial History Museum). From the Zhou Dynasty (c.1100-256 BCE) to Qin Dynasty (221-205 BC). The frog design dagger axe head from the earlier Shang Dynasty (c.1600-1046 BC). Attached Images

28th September 2005, 04:09 PM	#7
micas Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 30	I was absolutely fascinated by that gold handled dagger. Love the craftsmanship in the goldwork. Notice that it's missing some of the embedded jade pieces. Attached Images

28th September 2005, 04:40 AM	#2
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	INTERESTING INFORMATION. ARE THERE FACTORYS STILL MAKING THESE BOWS TODAY OR ARE THEY BEING MADE BY A FEW INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE PASSED DOWN THE TECKNIQUES THRU SEVERAL GENERATIONS? I HAVE NEVER SEEN A RECENTLY MADE BOW OF THIS TYPE ALL I HAVE SEEN WERE ANTIQUE AND IN NO CONDITION TO RISK STRINGING OR SHOOTING. WE HAVE BOW HUNTING SEASON HERE FOR MOST GAME AND USE BOWS FROM 50 POUNDS TO OVER 100 POUNDS PULL MOST BEING COMPOUND BOWS. ARE THERE HUNTING SEASONS IN CHINA AND DOES ANYONE STILL USE THE OLD BOWS THAT YOU DESCRIBE? IN ONE OF THE OLD POSTS THERE WERE PICTURES OF QUITE A FEW DIFFERENT ANTIQUE JAPANESE ARROW POINTS DO YOU HAVE A VARIETY OF CHINESE POINTS IN YOUR COLLECTION? SINUEW MADE FROM ANIMAL TENDONS AS WELL AS SKIN WERE SOMETIMES USED BY NATIVE AMERICANS FOR WEAPONS MANUFACTURE

28th September 2005, 06:47 AM	#3
Chris Evans Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 685	Hi fengmodao, Thanks for that information. Could you post some pictures of arrows? Cheers Chris

28th September 2005, 02:53 PM	#5
Mark Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 987	This is a fascinating thread. The fletching (feathers) on the arrow are unusual to my Western eyes -- very long. I wonder what effect it would have on the flight stability of the arrow? One the one hand, I can see it increasing from the greater surface area of the "wings," but on the other I can see it affecting the balance of the arrow and making it "back heavy."

28th September 2005, 05:00 PM	#8
fengmodao Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: beijing Posts: 29	This is the feather of eagle . The arrow that the tiptop waited can be used , the goose , the wild goose can not than . Feather length can make that what flies distant the arrow . The stable pneumatic outer mould that this was the best in more distant ancientry . The sword of Qin imperial court ( 221-205 before the Christian era ) is the miracle simply ! The sword of 100 centimetres that the tomb Qin emperor was found is winding by the heavy object pressure time discoverys , forms " the shape form of L" , but moving the heavy object opens as people , it has recovered the state sharp immediately . All shock more than 100 archaeology men and scientist that digs up the field . Am I surprised to this right and wrong Chang Ling , and who knows the expert of metal ? The explanation tells I this probably ?