A kind os East India Brown bess with Elephant mark

Cerjak · 13th January 2013, 11:46 AM

In the hiden side from the lock The makers initials C.W.J Charles W. James
and a B for Birmingham.

Fernando K · 14th January 2013, 07:32 PM

Hola, Cerjak

La contra-platina (side-plate) fijada con un tornillo de madera, comenzó a usarse en el modelo New Land, en 1802.
El arco con la palabra TOWER está invertido
La corona no se alcanza a ver bien, lo mismo que los punzones del Banco de Pruebas. La corona no tiene cifra real (GR, en este caso).

Aquí en Argentina se encuentran copias del Brown Bess, producidas en Belgica, con la palabra TOWER, la cifra real (GR) y hasta una imitación de la flecha ancha ("broad arrow") que indicaba propiedad real. Te adjunto una fotografía, en este caso de percusión.

Afectuosamente. Fernando K

Fernando K · 14th January 2013, 07:34 PM

Hello, Cerjak

The counter-plate fixed with a wood screw, was introduced in the model New Land, in 1802.
The arch with the word TOWER is inverted.
The crown is not well visible, same as the proof mark punctions. The crown has no Royal chypher (GR, in this case).

Here in Argentina there are copies of the Brown Bess, produced in Belgium, with the word TOWER, the actual cypher (GR) and even an imitation of the "Broad Arrow", indicating Royal property. I enclose a picture, in this case of percussion.

Affectionately. Fernando K

13th January 2013, 11:46 AM	#1
Cerjak Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: FRANCE Posts: 1,065	lock initial from the gunmakers In the hiden side from the lock The makers initials C.W.J Charles W. James and a B for Birmingham. Attached Images

14th January 2013, 07:34 PM	#3
Fernando K Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 671	Hello, Cerjak The counter-plate fixed with a wood screw, was introduced in the model New Land, in 1802. The arch with the word TOWER is inverted. The crown is not well visible, same as the proof mark punctions. The crown has no Royal chypher (GR, in this case). Here in Argentina there are copies of the Brown Bess, produced in Belgium, with the word TOWER, the actual cypher (GR) and even an imitation of the "Broad Arrow", indicating Royal property. I enclose a picture, in this case of percussion. Affectionately. Fernando K Attached Images Last edited by fernando; 14th January 2013 at 10:12 PM.

14th January 2013, 07:32 PM	#2
Fernando K Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 671	Hola, Cerjak La contra-platina (side-plate) fijada con un tornillo de madera, comenzó a usarse en el modelo New Land, en 1802. El arco con la palabra TOWER está invertido La corona no se alcanza a ver bien, lo mismo que los punzones del Banco de Pruebas. La corona no tiene cifra real (GR, en este caso). Aquí en Argentina se encuentran copias del Brown Bess, producidas en Belgica, con la palabra TOWER, la cifra real (GR) y hasta una imitación de la flecha ancha ("broad arrow") que indicaba propiedad real. Te adjunto una fotografía, en este caso de percusión. Afectuosamente. Fernando K