EBay pick-up

David · 3rd January 2013, 10:10 PM

Actually not in my hands yet Alan. I will let you all know next week when i get back into town.

A. G. Maisey · 3rd January 2013, 10:14 PM

OK David, thanks.

David · 12th January 2013, 09:38 PM

This keris arrived today and is proving quite interesting to me.

Alan, it looks to me that the wrongko refitting was done with wood. I think what looks like shellac to you is just the finish they put on the top part to help match it to the sheath. I will see if i can get some good shots of this tomorrow if the weather is good.
The hilt is really nicely carved and i'm fairly certain the kendit is true as well as the pelet wood of the sheath.
The interesting surprise i am having is that it would appear that the pesi might have been expertly replaced with an insert. It's a really nice, clean and tight job of i style i have seen done on Moro kris before, but not Indo. The blade is of better quality than the eBay photos show and it has some interesting pamor material. I will try to provide some close-ups of this when i get a moment and some good light.

A. G. Maisey · 13th January 2013, 06:49 AM

I would have very surprised if the kendit was other than natural and if the wrongko was not from naturally marked wood. This particular type of hilt is quite scarce, I cannot recall ever seeing a bad one. You really did well with this keris, David.

I know of several ways in which a pesi can be repaired, I'll be interested to see what has been done with this one.

David · 19th January 2013, 10:45 PM

Here are some shots of the pesi repair as well as the old re-fitting of the blade to the wrongko. Alan, it looks like a wooden piece to me that was then possibly received shellac on top to help match the wood.
I find the pesi repair very interesting.

The blade has obviously had a hard life, but it has some features i quite like. I have only given it a preliminary cleaning to remove the active rust. Some of the pamor material is very bright and silvery and has some interesting characteristics. I think i will have to wait for warmer weather to stain this blade, but i think this is worth working on further.

A. G. Maisey · 20th January 2013, 03:17 AM

Yeah, the wrongko fill is self explanatory.

I've seen that pesi job a few times, and frankly, I cannot make up my mind if its a repair or an alternative original method. A couple I've had have been a perfect match for iron, which makes me feel its original. If a bakalan was undersize, fitting an add-on pesi like this would save a lot of material.

When you forge the pesi into a bakalan you either forge down , and then you lose a lot through flaking, or you cut the pesi out of a bakalan that has not been forged down, and again you lose material. A pesi needs a lot more material to start with than you'd think.

henri · 20th January 2013, 05:19 AM

Nice keris ... with a very similar hilt I have into my collection .

19th January 2013, 10:45 PM	#5
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,211	Here are some shots of the pesi repair as well as the old re-fitting of the blade to the wrongko. Alan, it looks like a wooden piece to me that was then possibly received shellac on top to help match the wood. I find the pesi repair very interesting. The blade has obviously had a hard life, but it has some features i quite like. I have only given it a preliminary cleaning to remove the active rust. Some of the pamor material is very bright and silvery and has some interesting characteristics. I think i will have to wait for warmer weather to stain this blade, but i think this is worth working on further. Attached Images

20th January 2013, 05:19 AM	#7
henri Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Australia Posts: 81	Nice keris ... with a very similar hilt I have into my collection . Attached Images

3rd January 2013, 10:10 PM	#1
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,211	Actually not in my hands yet Alan. I will let you all know next week when i get back into town.

3rd January 2013, 10:14 PM	#2
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,989	OK David, thanks.

12th January 2013, 09:38 PM	#3
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,211	This keris arrived today and is proving quite interesting to me. Alan, it looks to me that the wrongko refitting was done with wood. I think what looks like shellac to you is just the finish they put on the top part to help match it to the sheath. I will see if i can get some good shots of this tomorrow if the weather is good. The hilt is really nicely carved and i'm fairly certain the kendit is true as well as the pelet wood of the sheath. The interesting surprise i am having is that it would appear that the pesi might have been expertly replaced with an insert. It's a really nice, clean and tight job of i style i have seen done on Moro kris before, but not Indo. The blade is of better quality than the eBay photos show and it has some interesting pamor material. I will try to provide some close-ups of this when i get a moment and some good light.

13th January 2013, 06:49 AM	#4
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,989	I would have very surprised if the kendit was other than natural and if the wrongko was not from naturally marked wood. This particular type of hilt is quite scarce, I cannot recall ever seeing a bad one. You really did well with this keris, David. I know of several ways in which a pesi can be repaired, I'll be interested to see what has been done with this one.

20th January 2013, 03:17 AM	#6
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,989	Yeah, the wrongko fill is self explanatory. I've seen that pesi job a few times, and frankly, I cannot make up my mind if its a repair or an alternative original method. A couple I've had have been a perfect match for iron, which makes me feel its original. If a bakalan was undersize, fitting an add-on pesi like this would save a lot of material. When you forge the pesi into a bakalan you either forge down , and then you lose a lot through flaking, or you cut the pesi out of a bakalan that has not been forged down, and again you lose material. A pesi needs a lot more material to start with than you'd think.