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Old 24th December 2012, 05:58 PM   #1
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Hi everybody
may I introduce you my last "input"

since few time, this dagger reached my home
- Indo-Persian dagger from "Qajar era" 18/19th century
it is in metal, steel?, with inlaid copper fillets
I guess that this blade is a variety of "Persian Johar"
it's the so-called "Qara Kharasan" or either "Qara Toban Johar"
I hope from your sagacity and expertise, to light on ... me

it has three inscriptions, 2 on the ricasso,
classical religious invocations (Shiite) YA ALI and YA ALLAH
too easy to translate, but the one on the heel of the guard,
it's in "Farsi" and we cannot translate it (hopefully, not found "made ​​in China" )

the handle as well as the scabbard, are covered by hunting scenes,
with a real catalog for all kind of animals, and even fish

the length is 35 cm (13,80 in)
the blade is 19 cm (7,48 in)
weight 780 gr (27,50 ozt)

please be free, to give yours comments, appreciations,
and more specially your critics, it's those last one, the most constructive

best regards

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Salaams Dom ~ Greetings and just a quick word on the decoration on the Hilt and Scabbard that I suspect is Persian ... Noahs Arc... I think it shows the Arc and its ramps on the hilt...I would say Qajar but no idea when.
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Old 25th December 2012, 02:07 AM   #2
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Hi Norman - Salam Alaykum Ibrahim
Thanks to have given your opinions

about age, I have no illusion,
the "Qajar dynasty" was stopped in 1925, that means ± 87 years ...
so the last "Qajar" is so to speak, contemporary

at least, since the beginning this point for me it's clear,
it's a modern/ancient khanjar

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Old 4th January 2013, 11:01 AM   #3
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DOM,
I've been looking over the inscription many times but unfortunetly I can not make out anything of it. Otherwise it is a very nice find, as far as Johar/Jawhar, I believe that is referred to wootz, yours seems to be Damascus steel.
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I've been looking over the inscription many times but unfortunetly I can not make out anything of it. Otherwise it is a very nice find, as far as Johar/Jawhar, I believe that is referred to wootz, yours seems to be Damascus steel.
Salam my Bro.
Goddammit ...
I was having a full hope, to have the translation from you
hard luck ... but it's the life ...
anyway, thanks a lot to have took the time, to try a translation,
you're a good mate
all the best

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Old 5th January 2013, 01:16 PM   #5
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DOM,
I have not given up on it bro, but I have/am doing alot of (unwanted)traveling right now so I am not really in one place for long right now. As soo as I get a chance, I'll try to write down whatever it says, sometimes that helps.
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Old 5th January 2013, 06:54 PM   #6
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Dom,
Thank you for posting this beautiful item!

I notice that the overall shape of blade and hilt, and hilt decoration, is similar to one in my collection although many details differ. Mine is provisionally identified as Persian and I welcome any comments that would shed more light on its identification. Here are some pictures for your consideration.
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Old 6th January 2013, 01:13 AM   #7
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Dom,
Thank you for posting this beautiful item!

I notice that the overall shape of blade and hilt, and hilt decoration, is similar to one in my collection although many details differ.
Mine is provisionally identified as Persian and I welcome any comments that would shed more light on its identification. Here are some pictures for your consideration.
Best Regards,
David A.
Hi David
indeed, your "jambiya" seems to be from the same origin
it's a pity that, there is no scabbard, because the dagger was certainly having a nice one

anyway, the decor on ricasso, with the "2 peacock" is typically Qajar, or Persian

what's funny, I guess that our two daggers have the same slight defect;
- the blade is not firmly sealed in the hilt, there is some play

I have extrapolated for yours, looking at the pictures,
but mine has this little problem

did you get a close look at the blade ? no evidence for a special steel ?

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