Is this an "old man's hobby"?

A. G. Maisey · 27th November 2012, 12:32 AM

Andrew, may I request a clarification, please?

In your post #100 you tell us that MMA has made the mixing of a number of styles of martial arts "de rigueur".

I am not a martial artist, in fact for a long time I've been a firm believer in the wisdom of Sun Tsu, however I did have a little involvement in some physical combat during my misspent youth, and this has resulted in an ongoing interest in martial arts in general.

It is my understanding that perhaps the most effective art overall is BJJ, with the best foundation for MMA being traditional wrestling --- I won't nominate a particular style, but I feel that possibly greco-roman might be the most effective base, simply because of its artificial restraints, which militate a chess-like approach to competition.

You clearly have a far greater knowledge in this area than do I, as well as the benefit of being an active participant, so do you think you could explain for me how multi skilling in a variety of arts contributes to success in MMA?

I do follow this spasmodically, and from what I can see it is mostly wrestlers with a few added in BJJ skills who have dominated overall, except for the early years when it was all BJJ.

But I do not have your knowledge nor your experience, so perhaps I'm wrong.

This is well and truly off-topic, so if you wish respond privately, or direct me to a website, I'm fine with that.

Thanks, Alan.

Andrew · 27th November 2012, 02:50 PM

OT martial arts discussion continued here: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...730#post148730

Sunmit · 28th November 2012, 06:04 AM

I am 27 and started seriously collecting about 6 years ago. The cost of antiques is definitely a factor that leaves me just saving photos of things in my wish list folder

To be honest talking to the folks that have been in the indo persian collecting world at shows has been the best part about all of this - being comparatively sort of young I get to hear a lot of awesome stories, suggestions etc from those that have been doing this for than 20+ years.

Definitely cherish meeting everyone once a year at the baltimore show as well, its always an awesome experience.

spiral · 28th November 2012, 10:25 PM

So in England at least it appears at least a middle aged if not old mans hobby,,

Possibly heading that way in US of A as well...

Some young blood elsewhere is good to see though,

Spiral

chregu · 29th November 2012, 04:18 PM

hello together
my first piece, bought at a flea market in Rotterdamm. one Madura keris for 90 Gulden.
I was with my parents on vacation in Holand. I was 17 years old, now I'm 45 years
chregu

olikara · 2nd December 2012, 09:25 AM

I'm 37 now.

And to be honest, would not have branched out into collecting edged arms had it not been for this forum and Jim McDougall.

Atlantia · 2nd December 2012, 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by olikara

I'm 37 now.

And to be honest, would not have branched out into collecting edged arms had it not been for this forum and Jim McDougall.

Hi Olikara,

Collecting can end up being a 'solitary' pursuit, we are often buying at distance, not to mention that we are buying items that are no longer considered mainstream 'collectables'. In fact many dealers and collectors consider them 'offensive weapons'!
Also of course the marketplace can seem a tad 'dog eat dog' at times to say the very least.
It can make collectors isolated and wary.

Even online forums and resources have various types of participants.

The machiavellian traders who exploit the resource without sharing their own knowledge.

The 'timid' or shy collectors who feel uncomfortable in giving opinions that might disagree with others. The occasional contributors.

The 'bread and butter' collectors and dealers who through passion for the field both share their knowledge and recieve help from others. (a good forum will hopefully have a majority of these people, the 'give and take' group)

But there are a few, who simply give.
The true 'researchers'. The historians and seekers whose joy is simply in the quest for knowledge and the opportunity to help and inspire others.
A very rare group in any sphere!

Jim is one of these rare people.
He gives freely of his time, his huge experience and wealth of knowledge never asking anything in return.

How could anyone who is fortunate enough to know 'our' Jim, not be inspired by him?

Our own wandering oracle of wisdom.

27th November 2012, 12:32 AM	#1
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,990	Andrew, may I request a clarification, please? In your post #100 you tell us that MMA has made the mixing of a number of styles of martial arts "de rigueur". I am not a martial artist, in fact for a long time I've been a firm believer in the wisdom of Sun Tsu, however I did have a little involvement in some physical combat during my misspent youth, and this has resulted in an ongoing interest in martial arts in general. It is my understanding that perhaps the most effective art overall is BJJ, with the best foundation for MMA being traditional wrestling --- I won't nominate a particular style, but I feel that possibly greco-roman might be the most effective base, simply because of its artificial restraints, which militate a chess-like approach to competition. You clearly have a far greater knowledge in this area than do I, as well as the benefit of being an active participant, so do you think you could explain for me how multi skilling in a variety of arts contributes to success in MMA? I do follow this spasmodically, and from what I can see it is mostly wrestlers with a few added in BJJ skills who have dominated overall, except for the early years when it was all BJJ. But I do not have your knowledge nor your experience, so perhaps I'm wrong. This is well and truly off-topic, so if you wish respond privately, or direct me to a website, I'm fine with that. Thanks, Alan.

27th November 2012, 02:50 PM	#2
Andrew Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: USA Posts: 1,725	OT martial arts discussion continued here: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...730#post148730

28th November 2012, 06:04 AM	#3
Sunmit Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: United States Posts: 11	I am 27 and started seriously collecting about 6 years ago. The cost of antiques is definitely a factor that leaves me just saving photos of things in my wish list folder To be honest talking to the folks that have been in the indo persian collecting world at shows has been the best part about all of this - being comparatively sort of young I get to hear a lot of awesome stories, suggestions etc from those that have been doing this for than 20+ years. Definitely cherish meeting everyone once a year at the baltimore show as well, its always an awesome experience.

28th November 2012, 10:25 PM	#4
spiral Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,712	So in England at least it appears at least a middle aged if not old mans hobby,, Possibly heading that way in US of A as well... Some young blood elsewhere is good to see though, Spiral

29th November 2012, 04:18 PM	#5
chregu Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: switzerland Posts: 298	hello together my first piece, bought at a flea market in Rotterdamm. one Madura keris for 90 Gulden. I was with my parents on vacation in Holand. I was 17 years old, now I'm 45 years chregu

2nd December 2012, 09:25 AM	#6
olikara Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: India Posts: 101	I'm 37 now. And to be honest, would not have branched out into collecting edged arms had it not been for this forum and Jim McDougall.