SCHIAVONA SWORD VARIATIONS.

theswordcollector · 4th November 2012, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by fernando

Very nice. Early type. Anyone around to tell more about this piece ?

Thank you for the comment :-)

fernando · 6th November 2012, 10:23 AM

I can advance what i have learnt that, this type of basket hilt with one pair of diagonal bars, forming the so called 'single mouse stairs', is in principle from the 17th century.
The type of leather grip reminds me (?) the one i have:

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ight=schiavona

theswordcollector · 11th November 2012, 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fernando

I can advance what i have learnt that, this type of basket hilt with one pair of diagonal bars, forming the so called 'single mouse stairs', is in principle from the 17th century.
The type of leather grip reminds me (?) the one i have:

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ight=schiavona

Hello , nice variation ! Where did you find this piece? Very nice variation. I purchased my shiavona in Prauge from a collection of arms that was sold from Karlstejn Castlein in 1989. My grip is leather wrapped and appearsto be original. I will try to post better photos. The basket does look very much like yours :-)

fernando · 11th November 2012, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by theswordcollector

Hello , nice variation ! Where did you find this piece? ...

In a local antique arms seller. It has previously belonged in a collection from a Lisbon arms historian.

VANDOO · 3rd September 2013, 06:35 PM

ANOTHER NICE EXAMPLE POPPED UP ON ANOTHER POST AND I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE GOOD TO ADD SOME PICTURES OF IT HERE FOR REFERENCE. SAID TO BE 18TH CENTURY AND HAS A NICE LIONS FACE ON THE POMMEL

fernando · 3rd September 2013, 10:01 PM

Speaking of lions; i have a paper written by a local guy in which he says that, (quote) although some historians describe the form of the Schiavona pommel as a cat's head, even wolf or others, more probably would be the form of a lion, more or less stylized. Mind the relation that Venice has with the Saint Marcos lion - symbol of power of that city (unquote).

3rd September 2013, 06:35 PM	#5
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	ANOTHER NICE EXAMPLE POPPED UP ON ANOTHER POST AND I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE GOOD TO ADD SOME PICTURES OF IT HERE FOR REFERENCE. SAID TO BE 18TH CENTURY AND HAS A NICE LIONS FACE ON THE POMMEL Attached Images

6th November 2012, 10:23 AM	#2
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	I can advance what i have learnt that, this type of basket hilt with one pair of diagonal bars, forming the so called 'single mouse stairs', is in principle from the 17th century. The type of leather grip reminds me (?) the one i have: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ight=schiavona

3rd September 2013, 10:01 PM	#6
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Speaking of lions; i have a paper written by a local guy in which he says that, (quote) although some historians describe the form of the Schiavona pommel as a cat's head, even wolf or others, more probably would be the form of a lion, more or less stylized. Mind the relation that Venice has with the Saint Marcos lion - symbol of power of that city (unquote).