Fully Loaded Binangon

Sajen · 4th November 2012, 10:43 AM

Hello Ron,

congrats for this purchase!

A very nice and complete binangon. The sheath is very similar to my tenegre sheath what give you a estimated age of yours. The flower is a catmoon flower. My scabbard has as well this pieces of mirrow and and a very similar design, look here: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=11550.

When you ever get bored by this beauty....

Regards,

Detlef

Gavin Nugent · 4th November 2012, 11:07 AM

Please share more information on this flower you mention Sajen, does it go by any other name?

Thanks

Gavin

Sajen · 4th November 2012, 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freebooter

Please share more information on this flower you mention Sajen, does it go by any other name?

Thanks

Gavin

Hello Gavin,

I have this information from Nacho given to me/us in the the thread I posted in up in post # 12. I don't have more informations, sorry.

Regards,

Detlef

Gavin Nugent · 4th November 2012, 12:04 PM

Thanks Detlef,

Interesting also to see that the inner part of the lucky coin motif would sit within the geometric design of the "Catmoon" flower arrangement.

Gavin

Battara · 4th November 2012, 03:57 PM

I forget, is it the blade form that makes this a binangon?

On another note, this is a common motif on this island - seen it on upland Panay pieces as well (pieces with long noses).

Sajen · 4th November 2012, 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Battara

I forget, is it the blade form that makes this a binangon?

On another note, this is a common motif on this island - seen it on upland Panay pieces as well (pieces with long noses).

Hi Jose,

I am as well every time confused by this both terms. But when I understand correct is the sword from Ron a tenegre and my one a binangon, see the thread I have given. It isn't the blade form but the handle form what makes a binangon or tenegre. See post #20 & #24 in the thread I have given.

For the second question: I simple don't know.

Maybe Nacho or someone other is able to give us an answer.

Regards,

Detlef

Spunjer · 4th November 2012, 06:31 PM

freebooter, the flower motif has always been integral to the ilonggo arts. besides weapons, these particular motif can be seen on textiles and architecture. if you notice on the majority of ilonggo weapons, the deity hilt has a flower cap. Nacho has postulated that these represented the Katmon flower (dillenia philippinensis). i have heard that the four petal supposed to represent the main cardinal points.
as far as what it's called we (as ilonggo) would call this a binangon, whether the blade profile is that of what sajen's have, or the one that i have. bangkaya has eloquently explained that in this thread: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=16115.
IMHO, this is what i would consider more of a tenegre:

4th November 2012, 10:43 AM	#1
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,164	Hello Ron, congrats for this purchase! A very nice and complete binangon. The sheath is very similar to my tenegre sheath what give you a estimated age of yours. The flower is a catmoon flower. My scabbard has as well this pieces of mirrow and and a very similar design, look here: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=11550. When you ever get bored by this beauty.... Regards, Detlef Attached Images

4th November 2012, 06:31 PM	#7
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	freebooter, the flower motif has always been integral to the ilonggo arts. besides weapons, these particular motif can be seen on textiles and architecture. if you notice on the majority of ilonggo weapons, the deity hilt has a flower cap. Nacho has postulated that these represented the Katmon flower (dillenia philippinensis). i have heard that the four petal supposed to represent the main cardinal points. as far as what it's called we (as ilonggo) would call this a binangon, whether the blade profile is that of what sajen's have, or the one that i have. bangkaya has eloquently explained that in this thread: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=16115. IMHO, this is what i would consider more of a tenegre: Attached Images

4th November 2012, 11:07 AM	#2
Gavin Nugent Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,818	flower Please share more information on this flower you mention Sajen, does it go by any other name? Thanks Gavin

4th November 2012, 12:04 PM	#4
Gavin Nugent Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,818	Thanks Detlef, Interesting also to see that the inner part of the lucky coin motif would sit within the geometric design of the "Catmoon" flower arrangement. Gavin

4th November 2012, 03:57 PM	#5
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,272	I forget, is it the blade form that makes this a binangon? On another note, this is a common motif on this island - seen it on upland Panay pieces as well (pieces with long noses).