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Old 26th October 2012, 01:59 AM   #1
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Well it is not really round, but slightly squarish at the ganga.

That being said, I am wondering if this might not be early 1800s. Hard to pin down.
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Old 29th October 2012, 10:34 PM   #2
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Hello Detlef,

Nice score again!


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Well it is not really round, but slightly squarish at the ganga.
I'm with Jose: This doesn't look like an archaic tang. Interesting variant though!


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That being said, I am wondering if this might not be early 1800s. Hard to pin down.
Regarding the blade, I'd not place this much earlier than mid-19th c., more likely second half of 19th c. IMVHO.

I believe that the blade originated in Sulu and that the silver inlay was added later, possibly after the blade ended up on Mindanao. Possibly Maguindanao work?

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Old 29th October 2012, 11:33 PM   #3
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Hello Detlef,

Nice score again!

I believe that the blade originated in Sulu and that the silver inlay was added later, possibly after the blade ended up on Mindanao. Possibly Maguindanao work?
Hello Kai,

thank you. Very interesting suggestion. So I am maybe correct with my first feeling.

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Old 30th October 2012, 09:17 AM   #4
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Yes, I have seen several of this type - need to dig out pics. Usually this design is obscured by the lower asang-asang crossing the elongated gape...

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Old 30th October 2012, 07:16 PM   #5
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Agree, the missing asang-asang let look this part of the blade different.

I am curious to see your pictures, they will give also a clue how the asang-asang and the handle attachments have to look.

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Old 17th November 2012, 12:52 PM   #6
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Have received the kris and have to assert that the handle is badly demaged so I have given it to my friend who is a very good wood restorer to fix the break and give back the handle the front beak while I decide to let the back beak like this. The tang is indeed squarish at the base. Now I will polish the blade.

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Old 17th November 2012, 05:43 PM   #7
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Oh W W........I had no idea that the hilt was in such bad shape!
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