Moro Silver Kris Restoration

Battara · 18th October 2012, 12:53 AM

Greetings folks!

By request, I am posting some pictures of one of the recent restoration projects I have done.

These first 2 pictures are of the original piece with the hilt wrapped in later twisted brass wire. I took that off and discovered that there were extra holes drilled into the wood to place the ends of different strands of twisted wire.

Battara · 18th October 2012, 12:55 AM

Then I drew out the design on sheet silver and repoussed, cut, and stamped the top band.

Battara · 18th October 2012, 12:58 AM

After that I then cut and hammer bent the other silver bands into shape.

Battara · 18th October 2012, 01:05 AM

I then soldered the silver bands, placed them on the hilt, and wrapped the spaces in hemp (lacquering the hemp).

Battara · 18th October 2012, 01:07 AM

Here are the final results:

A.alnakkas · 18th October 2012, 01:11 AM

Wow! nice work Jose :-) Do you also work on items from other cultures?

Lotfy

Battara · 18th October 2012, 01:34 AM

Thank you.

Yes I have worked on pieces from, other cultures. I have worked on a Scottish sgian dubh, US Civil War foot officer's sword, some Indonesian pieces, some dha in the past, a little work on a Kurdish jambiya, and did some work on a Chinese scabbard.

Fun stuff.

A.alnakkas · 18th October 2012, 01:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Battara

Thank you.

Yes I have worked on pieces from, other cultures. I have worked on a Scottish sgian dubh, US Civil War foot officer's sword, some Indonesian pieces, some dha in the past, a little work on a Kurdish jambiya, and did some work on a Chinese scabbard.

Fun stuff.

Awesome! I remember the Kurdish khanjar! it was a topic I brought up from the dead awhile ago.

Do you base patterns and decoration of missing silver on other items from the same culture or its all based on taste?

Atlantia · 18th October 2012, 01:56 AM

looks great Jose
What guage of silver sheet are you using?

Battara · 18th October 2012, 03:32 AM

On the top band I used 28 gauge. For the other bands - I forgot (sorry).

I tried to match the gauge of the bottom original band as well as be thin enough to do a primitive form of repousse. Unfortunately I could not match the bottom band because it is thicker and cast silver.

In some way I tried to match the rope motif from the bottom band to all the bands, including the top band.

Ibrahiim al Balooshi · 18th October 2012, 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Battara

On the top band I used 28 gauge. For the other bands - I forgot (sorry).

I tried to match the gauge of the bottom original band as well as be thin enough to do a primitive form of repousse. Unfortunately I could not match the bottom band because it is thicker and cast silver.

In some way I tried to match the rope motif from the bottom band to all the bands, including the top band.

Salaams Battara~ Nice project!!
Regards,
Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

Atlantia · 18th October 2012, 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Battara

On the top band I used 28 gauge. For the other bands - I forgot (sorry).

I tried to match the gauge of the bottom original band as well as be thin enough to do a primitive form of repousse. Unfortunately I could not match the bottom band because it is thicker and cast silver.

In some way I tried to match the rope motif from the bottom band to all the bands, including the top band.

You've done a fantastic job as always Jose.
It looks perfectly in keeping with the piece, well done.

Best
Gene

mross · 18th October 2012, 05:53 PM

Jose you are a true artist.

Robert · 18th October 2012, 06:05 PM

Beautiful work as always Jose. Looking forward to seeing your next project.

Robert

P.S.
Showing pictures of the work in progress is one of the best ways to show your work skills and it adds a whole new depth to the thread. I can never remember to do this when doing any repairs myself, I can't even remember to take before and after shots most of the time.

Sajen · 18th October 2012, 08:04 PM

What shall I still add? Agree with the others, good work again!

Battara · 19th October 2012, 02:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A.alnakkas

Awesome! I remember the Kurdish khanjar! it was a topic I brought up from the dead awhile ago.

Do you base patterns and decoration of missing silver on other items from the same culture or its all based on taste?

Yes that Kurdish khanjar was something I thought I could attempt if the price was right.

Another good question: I do as much research as possible to base my work. For example, on Moro pieces I try to do the work based on the work and motifs of the particular tribe a kris comes from. On the Scottish sgian dubh I carved (wood and silver work) the knotwork based on Celtic knotwork one on others like it (see below).

Again thank you folks very much!

18th October 2012, 12:53 AM	#1
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,225	Moro Silver Kris Restoration Greetings folks! By request, I am posting some pictures of one of the recent restoration projects I have done. These first 2 pictures are of the original piece with the hilt wrapped in later twisted brass wire. I took that off and discovered that there were extra holes drilled into the wood to place the ends of different strands of twisted wire. Attached Images

18th October 2012, 12:55 AM	#2
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,225	Then I drew out the design on sheet silver and repoussed, cut, and stamped the top band. Attached Images

18th October 2012, 12:58 AM	#3
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,225	After that I then cut and hammer bent the other silver bands into shape. Attached Images

18th October 2012, 01:05 AM	#4
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,225	I then soldered the silver bands, placed them on the hilt, and wrapped the spaces in hemp (lacquering the hemp). Attached Images

18th October 2012, 01:07 AM	#5
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,225	Here are the final results: Attached Images

18th October 2012, 01:11 AM	#6
A.alnakkas Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Kuwait Posts: 1,340	Wow! nice work Jose :-) Do you also work on items from other cultures? Lotfy

18th October 2012, 01:34 AM	#7
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,225	Thank you. Yes I have worked on pieces from, other cultures. I have worked on a Scottish sgian dubh, US Civil War foot officer's sword, some Indonesian pieces, some dha in the past, a little work on a Kurdish jambiya, and did some work on a Chinese scabbard. Fun stuff.

18th October 2012, 01:56 AM	#9
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	looks great Jose What guage of silver sheet are you using?

18th October 2012, 03:32 AM	#10
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,225	On the top band I used 28 gauge. For the other bands - I forgot (sorry). I tried to match the gauge of the bottom original band as well as be thin enough to do a primitive form of repousse. Unfortunately I could not match the bottom band because it is thicker and cast silver. In some way I tried to match the rope motif from the bottom band to all the bands, including the top band. Last edited by Battara; 18th October 2012 at 03:42 AM.

18th October 2012, 05:53 PM	#13
mross Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 478	Jose you are a true artist.

18th October 2012, 06:05 PM	#14
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	Beautiful work as always Jose. Looking forward to seeing your next project. Robert P.S. Showing pictures of the work in progress is one of the best ways to show your work skills and it adds a whole new depth to the thread. I can never remember to do this when doing any repairs myself, I can't even remember to take before and after shots most of the time. Last edited by Robert Coleman; 18th October 2012 at 09:31 PM.

18th October 2012, 08:04 PM	#15
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,786	What shall I still add? Agree with the others, good work again!