What is this sword?

philkid · 17th September 2005, 05:33 AM

Hi Bob, I have also been offered a sword similar to that but with different style. It has a superb quality blade but the hilt and scabbard was somekind of funny since it was colored with the Philippine flag. I think it is more of a Luzon type hilt but the blade is somewhat like that of the sword of "Panday". Do you think our friends in Lanao are also reproducing swords like that of Luzon? Can you give me its measurements?

Ahriman · 17th September 2005, 04:13 PM

If it'd be older, I'd say a refurnitured Oakeshott XI, or a XIII . Unfortunatuly, they'd be 12-14th century... so it's out, but the blade design, the lenght (the Albions' blade is longer only with 3"), and the mentioned cutting ability is all too familiar. BTW, I love cutting sword like these. So I don't know... is it possible that it remained in fashion for so long?

Ian · 17th September 2005, 05:05 PM

This is almost certainly a Moro copy of a European broadsword. I have a provenanced example, complete with wooden scabbard, that was commissioned in Lanao del Sur in the early 20th C by a US Administrator.

The Moro origin is probably correct. Nice sword.

Ian.

Ahriman · 17th September 2005, 05:46 PM

What do you mean by broadsword? The middle-age, or the early modern-age one? Just for clearing things up in my mind.

Ahriman · 17th September 2005, 05:48 PM

I forgot to add this to my earlier post AND the newer one as well. Moro origin is correct as far as I know, but I'm faaaaar from being an expert.

fearn · 17th September 2005, 05:50 PM

Hi Ian et al.,

Just to start an argument, why couldn't this be a philippine copy of a Chinese Jian? Why does it have to be a copy of anything European?

F

Ahriman · 17th September 2005, 05:55 PM

Even as I'm not Ian... I think that Jians are made with a bit narrower and more paralell blades. I might be wrong.
But the blade looks very much like the ones I posted.

Hm, before I forget: I don't know much of chinese swords, so it was only a guess.

17th September 2005, 05:33 AM	#1
philkid Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Philippines Posts: 52	Hi Bob, I have also been offered a sword similar to that but with different style. It has a superb quality blade but the hilt and scabbard was somekind of funny since it was colored with the Philippine flag. I think it is more of a Luzon type hilt but the blade is somewhat like that of the sword of "Panday". Do you think our friends in Lanao are also reproducing swords like that of Luzon? Can you give me its measurements?

17th September 2005, 04:13 PM	#2
Ahriman Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Hungary Posts: 72	If it'd be older, I'd say a refurnitured Oakeshott XI, or a XIII . Unfortunatuly, they'd be 12-14th century... so it's out, but the blade design, the lenght (the Albions' blade is longer only with 3"), and the mentioned cutting ability is all too familiar. BTW, I love cutting sword like these. So I don't know... is it possible that it remained in fashion for so long?

17th September 2005, 05:05 PM	#3
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,361	This is almost certainly a Moro copy of a European broadsword. I have a provenanced example, complete with wooden scabbard, that was commissioned in Lanao del Sur in the early 20th C by a US Administrator. The Moro origin is probably correct. Nice sword. Ian.

17th September 2005, 05:46 PM	#4
Ahriman Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Hungary Posts: 72	What do you mean by broadsword? The middle-age, or the early modern-age one? Just for clearing things up in my mind.

17th September 2005, 05:48 PM	#5
Ahriman Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Hungary Posts: 72	I forgot to add this to my earlier post AND the newer one as well. Moro origin is correct as far as I know, but I'm faaaaar from being an expert.

17th September 2005, 05:50 PM	#6
fearn Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,247	Hi Ian et al., Just to start an argument, why couldn't this be a philippine copy of a Chinese Jian? Why does it have to be a copy of anything European? F

17th September 2005, 05:55 PM	#7
Ahriman Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Hungary Posts: 72	Even as I'm not Ian... I think that Jians are made with a bit narrower and more paralell blades. I might be wrong. But the blade looks very much like the ones I posted. Hm, before I forget: I don't know much of chinese swords, so it was only a guess.