SCHIAVONA SWORD VARIATIONS.

aurelius56 · 7th October 2012, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by fernando

Maybe upside down ?

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Hello, this is my very first post :-) Yes - this letters are so called Croatian Cyrilic used up to the end of XVIII cent. and it reads Grgur (Gregory). It is very common marking on 3-row late XVIII cent. schiavona hilts. This particullar schiavona is mounted with XVIII cent. Austrian pallosh blade - not uncommon at all.
Regards, Zlatko

Addition - you may find longer version of this inscription in E.Oakeshott: "European Weapons and Armour" page 189 fig. 87 - "Grgur majstor" - meaning Gregory artisan - indicating local hilt production in Dalmatia.

fernando · 8th October 2012, 01:10 PM

Welcome to the forum Zlatko

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Interesting observation on the Croatian Cyrilic inscription.
Have you any swords you would like to show us ?

Norman McCormick · 8th October 2012, 03:49 PM

Hi Zlatko,
The script on this Austrian mounted Pala has so far eluded translation, maybe you recognise the form? Oh, and welcome to the Forum, the nicest bunch of "eccentrics"

you'll ever meet.

Regards,
Norman.

aurelius56 · 8th October 2012, 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norman McCormick

Hi Zlatko,
The script on this Austrian mounted Pala has so far eluded translation, maybe you recognise the form? Oh, and welcome to the Forum, the nicest bunch of "eccentrics"

you'll ever meet.

Regards,
Norman.

Hi Norman,
unfortunately I do not recognize this characters :-(
They might be some talismanic magical signs or Russian Cyrilic - sorry.
Regards, Zlatko

Norman McCormick · 9th October 2012, 03:10 PM

Hi Zlatko,
Many thanks for taking the time to look.

My Regards,
Norman.

fernando · 9th October 2012, 09:40 PM

Great sword Zlatko,
Thanks a lot for sharing.
Listen, why don't you open a thread/s to post your collection examples ?

theswordcollector · 2nd November 2012, 05:11 PM

Hello fellow collectors can anyone ID this schiavone maker , date orgin country ? I see a running wolf with rose gold inlay reminance and the orb and cross has the same rose gold inlay. Can anyone shanre any information on this piece? The pommel is very nicely detailed also. Thank you :-)

aurelius56 · 8th October 2012, 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fernando

Welcome to the forum Zlatko

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Interesting observation on the Croatian Cyrilic inscription.
Have you any swords you would like to show us ?

Hi, yes I have several schiavonas in my collection.
For the start, here is the one with more elaborate hilt construction than usual
Early XVII cent, broad blade with short fuller, on both sides "marca di mosca" (Belluno?), iron pommel. Well proportioned and homogenuosus sword. Unfortunately previous owner used some acid to clean the sword :-(
Total length 105 cm; blade 90,5 cm; width 4,8 cm

8th October 2012, 03:49 PM	#3
Norman McCormick Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,613	Hi Zlatko, The script on this Austrian mounted Pala has so far eluded translation, maybe you recognise the form? Oh, and welcome to the Forum, the nicest bunch of "eccentrics" you'll ever meet. Regards, Norman. Attached Images Last edited by Norman McCormick; 8th October 2012 at 06:19 PM.

2nd November 2012, 05:11 PM	#7
theswordcollector Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Berlin Posts: 48	A nice early Schiavone sword can anyone guess the smith, date, country?Thank you :-) Hello fellow collectors can anyone ID this schiavone maker , date orgin country ? I see a running wolf with rose gold inlay reminance and the orb and cross has the same rose gold inlay. Can anyone shanre any information on this piece? The pommel is very nicely detailed also. Thank you :-) Attached Images

8th October 2012, 01:10 PM	#2
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Welcome to the forum Zlatko . Interesting observation on the Croatian Cyrilic inscription. Have you any swords you would like to show us ?

9th October 2012, 03:10 PM	#5
Norman McCormick Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,613	Hi Zlatko, Many thanks for taking the time to look. My Regards, Norman.

9th October 2012, 09:40 PM	#6
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Great sword Zlatko, Thanks a lot for sharing. Listen, why don't you open a thread/s to post your collection examples ?