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Jim McDougall · 1st October 2012, 07:53 PM

I think Gene has been pretty much spot on throughout on this, and with the Austrian assessment. Interesting detective work by him and Fernando on the crown, and these are always compelling clues in identifying markings. Often books on coins of the period can be revealing when trying to identify royal markings and cyphers as well.
I think the Austrians were often supplied by Solingen in these times and I think at least one Solingen maker used the crown but havent got it handy at the moment. Most Austrian makers or importers are listed in Bezdeks compendium.

Atlantia · 1st October 2012, 08:32 PM

That's interesting, so it's peened tang with a covering nut.
I wouldn't attempt any firther disassembly if it's not willing.

I don't know a lot about these swords but the M1861 was a long lived pattern (as these late sabres often are) so there is a fairly good chance that the Crown/Coronet and rope mark will be noted on other examples.
Try googling 'Austrian M 1861 Infantry Officers sword' and you should be able to find many dozens if not hundreds to compare with yours. You could get lucky and find the same mark on another.

1st October 2012, 07:53 PM	#1
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 10,454	I think Gene has been pretty much spot on throughout on this, and with the Austrian assessment. Interesting detective work by him and Fernando on the crown, and these are always compelling clues in identifying markings. Often books on coins of the period can be revealing when trying to identify royal markings and cyphers as well. I think the Austrians were often supplied by Solingen in these times and I think at least one Solingen maker used the crown but havent got it handy at the moment. Most Austrian makers or importers are listed in Bezdeks compendium.

1st October 2012, 08:32 PM	#2
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	That's interesting, so it's peened tang with a covering nut. I wouldn't attempt any firther disassembly if it's not willing. I don't know a lot about these swords but the M1861 was a long lived pattern (as these late sabres often are) so there is a fairly good chance that the Crown/Coronet and rope mark will be noted on other examples. Try googling 'Austrian M 1861 Infantry Officers sword' and you should be able to find many dozens if not hundreds to compare with yours. You could get lucky and find the same mark on another.