Help wanted Identification of Katars

Rick · 14th September 2005, 11:24 PM

I think that from reading the discussion Rob no one here knows how to decipher the armory marks . Many legitimate reasons were given for this .
I'm sorry if we seem to have let you down in this respect .
Quite possibly no one has ever made a study of these markings .

The katars are quite beautiful .

PUFF · 5th July 2006, 10:31 AM

As far as I know, hindu-arabic scripts could be associated with period and place. You might be able to catagorize your speciments according to their period and place.

3-5-8 in figure 12a is a good start

(hopefully, nothing related to its caliber )

Jens Nordlunde · 5th July 2006, 01:05 PM

Hi Puff,

Interesting stuff you are showing, although I doubt very much that many here on the forum have much use for the numbers from 300 BC

. It does however give the forumites an idea of the difficulty when it comes to inscriptions and dates.

Some dates on weapons were made older than the actual year the weapon was made, some put on later, for decoration together with an inscription or a name, or when entering an armoury, and some were, much later, faked by collectors to improve the value of the collection, so any date on a weapon should be compared with the weapon itself, to see if the date and the style it was made in seems to fit the age of the weapon.

Lew · 5th July 2006, 07:50 PM

Here is a link to a Bikiner museum with lots of interesting items.

http://www.leyline.org/cgi-bin/photo...egory=armories

The link should work now.

Lew

Jens Nordlunde · 11th January 2015, 04:03 PM

Geneacom,
I was just looking at this old thread, and I have some news.
The katar you show in post 26 is from Bundi.
I have researched these katars, and written an article about them. They are from first half of the 19th ceentury.
Jens

5th July 2006, 01:05 PM	#3
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	Hi Puff, Interesting stuff you are showing, although I doubt very much that many here on the forum have much use for the numbers from 300 BC. It does however give the forumites an idea of the difficulty when it comes to inscriptions and dates. Some dates on weapons were made older than the actual year the weapon was made, some put on later, for decoration together with an inscription or a name, or when entering an armoury, and some were, much later, faked by collectors to improve the value of the collection, so any date on a weapon should be compared with the weapon itself, to see if the date and the style it was made in seems to fit the age of the weapon.

5th July 2006, 07:50 PM	#4
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	Here is a link to a Bikiner museum with lots of interesting items. http://www.leyline.org/cgi-bin/photo...egory=armories The link should work now. Lew Last edited by LOUIEBLADES; 6th July 2006 at 11:25 AM.

14th September 2005, 11:24 PM	#1
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,365	I think that from reading the discussion Rob no one here knows how to decipher the armory marks . Many legitimate reasons were given for this . I'm sorry if we seem to have let you down in this respect . Quite possibly no one has ever made a study of these markings . The katars are quite beautiful .

5th July 2006, 10:31 AM	#2
PUFF Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 30 miles north of Bangkok, 20 miles south of Ayuthaya, Thailand Posts: 224	As far as I know, hindu-arabic scripts could be associated with period and place. You might be able to catagorize your speciments according to their period and place. 3-5-8 in figure 12a is a good start (hopefully, nothing related to its caliber )

11th January 2015, 04:03 PM	#5
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	Geneacom, I was just looking at this old thread, and I have some news. The katar you show in post 26 is from Bundi. I have researched these katars, and written an article about them. They are from first half of the 19th ceentury. Jens