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Old 28th September 2012, 03:26 PM   #1
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It may even be early 1940s - MOP was a later development.

Hope you etch the blade to see if there is any lamination.
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Old 28th September 2012, 05:00 PM   #2
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Do you guys think this is the original sheath. Usually when i see silver ferruled gunongs the fittings on the sheath are also silver....and the gunong does not seem to fit into this sheath fully. Seems a mismatch to me...
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Old 28th September 2012, 08:44 PM   #3
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Do you guys think this is the original sheath. Usually when i see silver ferruled gunongs the fittings on the sheath are also silver....and the gunong does not seem to fit into this sheath fully. Seems a mismatch to me...
Hi David,

would agree at this point. I don't think that it is the original sheath, never have seen a bamboo sheath before. Will tell you when I have received it if the blade fit good inside.

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Old 2nd October 2012, 12:32 AM   #4
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Hi David,

would agree at this point. I don't think that it is the original sheath, never have seen a bamboo sheath before. Will tell you when I have received it if the blade fit good inside.

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Bamboo or is it perhaps Rattan instead?
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Bamboo or is it perhaps Rattan instead?
Think it is bamboo but can't confirm without fail since I don't have received it until now. Seller stated it is bamboo.
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Old 13th October 2012, 11:18 AM   #6
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Have received it and so it look after some maintain.
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Old 13th October 2012, 12:18 PM   #7
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Wow Sajen, now that is a lovely piece! Love the knife itself perhaps a bit more than the scabbard. Can tell you that it takes a long time and much handling to obtain such a nice warm "golden" hue on the Mother of pearl handle. Also the siver ferrule looks quite old (bit older than 1930's to me!). Quite a jewel!

Am not an expert on these but would almost say that the knife would deserve a slight better scabbard (dark wood, silver bands?). But this scabbard is certainly also good n old n authentic.
>yes the scabbard is from bamboo; very strong material and perhaps better than wood to use, though visually perhaps a bit less 'pleasing'.

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Old 28th September 2012, 05:03 PM   #8
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It may even be early 1940s - MOP was a later development.
Was there much manufacture of these in the early 40s. I would think that WWII and the Japanese invasion would have squashed that.
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Old 28th September 2012, 09:03 PM   #9
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It may even be early 1940s - MOP was a later development.

Hope you etch the blade to see if there is any lamination.
Hi Jose,

yes, will etch the blade. The elongated handle and the thin bulbous midsection let me think that it is more early. You don't think that the midsection would be more bulgy by a 1940s gunong?

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Old 28th September 2012, 10:15 PM   #10
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You don't think that the midsection would be more bulgy by a 1940s gunong?
That is a good point. Usually the bulbous midsection gets bigger as time goes on. However, the use of MOP on this scale was a later development.

As I said 1930s at the earliest and 1940s at the latest.

One other possibility - the MOP pommel is a replacement at a later time than the midsection.

Also most of these seem to come out of Mindanao. However the lack of okir makes me wonder if this is from the Sulu region.
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Old 29th September 2012, 02:58 PM   #11
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That is a good point. Usually the bulbous midsection gets bigger as time goes on. However, the use of MOP on this scale was a later development.

As I said 1930s at the earliest and 1940s at the latest.

One other possibility - the MOP pommel is a replacement at a later time than the midsection.

Also most of these seem to come out of Mindanao. However the lack of okir makes me wonder if this is from the Sulu region.

Thank you for clarification, this is a possibility since the sheath seems to be later as well. That it could be Sulu is an interesting point.

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