How to make a scabbard for a Kampilan?

A. G. Maisey · 26th August 2012, 02:37 PM

Thank you Spunjer.

imas560 · 28th August 2012, 12:43 AM

Hello all,
@Battara: whilst looking at some wooden odds and ends and formulating a quick process on how to setup and route my eye kept resting on the wooden wall boards which had been set aside as they had a bit of wet rot on the bottom. As I'm usually in a rush I decided for a quick and dirty option of using the solid board with an opening in the bottom. But I'm still formulating a breakaway scabbard using some plywood and a router but I'll save that for the other 2 kampilans as I'd need to approach the project with a bit more TLC.

@AGMaisey: Hello Mr Maisey, thanks for the info re the scabbard. You helped me out a year or two ago with some tips on protocol and etiquette for my trip to Malaysia which was greatly appreciated and very helpful. I am hoping to visit Empu Mazin on my next visit. On one of my visits he was finishing off a keris panjang which was a work of art and I would like to talk to him about them. This time without my kiddies chasing chickens and cats into the bush.

Spunjer · 30th August 2012, 12:14 PM

GM Yuli Romo demonstrating the Kampilan:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCl1T6c8w4A

imas560 · 6th September 2012, 05:32 AM

Hello all,
the hair extensions arrived today and the hair holes are ready.
Cato mentions that the hair tufts "generally measure six to eight inches in length". Does this seem to be the norm?
thanks

VANDOO · 6th September 2012, 09:05 PM

MOST I HAVE SEEN WOULD BE IN THE 5 TO 6 INCH LEGNTH. THE ONES WITH 2 TO 3 INCH ARE NOT LONG ENOUGH TO FLEX AND BEND AND DON'T LOOK GOOD AND SOME EXAMPLES HAVE FRAZZELED LOOKING TUFTS WHICH TAKE AWAY FROM THE NICE LOOKS OF THE SWORD.
I AM NOT SURE HOW THE HAIR IS PUT IN AS I HAVE NEVER GOT AROUND TO DOING IT. THE HAIR IS HELD IN BY A WOOD PEG BUT WEATHER THE TUFT IS INSERTED IN THE HOLE FIRST THEN THE PEG INSERTED OR THE HAIR ATTACHED TO THE PEG AND INSERTED TOGETHER

ANOTHER POSSIBILITY IS IF THE HAIR WAS LONG ENOUGH SAY 12 INCHES TO FIND THE MIDDLE AND STICK IN THE HOLE AND INSERT THE PEG RESULTING IN TWO 6 INCH TUFTS PER HOLE. WHEN THE JOB IS COMPLETE THE TUFTS ARE CUT TO BE EVEN IN LEGNTH. I HAVE PONDERED THIS IN THE PAST BUT NEVER GOT THE MATERIALS AND GAVE IT A TRY SO I LOOK FORWARD TO LEARNING HOW YOU GO ABOUT IT. GOOD LUCK

imas560 · 6th September 2012, 09:10 PM

Thanks Vandoo

imas560 · 11th September 2012, 04:36 AM

So I'm almost ready to apply the hair tufts but I thought I'd better verify the kampilan.
I was working under the assumption that the kampilan is a recently made piece (recent as in made in the last 10 years). But I want to confirm first as I was thinking the scabbard is an addition that does not alter the item but the hair tufts affixed become part of the item. I have taken a few additional photos and I was hoping that someone could be able to quickly tell that the kampilan is a recently made item.
The dimes do not show the year, but I thought it could be quite easy to get hold of a couple of old coins.
The kampilan is approx 39 inches / 1 metre long.
Thanks everyone for your help.

6th September 2012, 05:32 AM	#4
imas560 Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 180	Hello all, the hair extensions arrived today and the hair holes are ready. Cato mentions that the hair tufts "generally measure six to eight inches in length". Does this seem to be the norm? thanks Attached Images

11th September 2012, 04:36 AM	#7
imas560 Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 180	So I'm almost ready to apply the hair tufts but I thought I'd better verify the kampilan. I was working under the assumption that the kampilan is a recently made piece (recent as in made in the last 10 years). But I want to confirm first as I was thinking the scabbard is an addition that does not alter the item but the hair tufts affixed become part of the item. I have taken a few additional photos and I was hoping that someone could be able to quickly tell that the kampilan is a recently made item. The dimes do not show the year, but I thought it could be quite easy to get hold of a couple of old coins. The kampilan is approx 39 inches / 1 metre long. Thanks everyone for your help. Attached Images

26th August 2012, 02:37 PM	#1
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,048	Thank you Spunjer.

28th August 2012, 12:43 AM	#2
imas560 Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 180	Hello all, @Battara: whilst looking at some wooden odds and ends and formulating a quick process on how to setup and route my eye kept resting on the wooden wall boards which had been set aside as they had a bit of wet rot on the bottom. As I'm usually in a rush I decided for a quick and dirty option of using the solid board with an opening in the bottom. But I'm still formulating a breakaway scabbard using some plywood and a router but I'll save that for the other 2 kampilans as I'd need to approach the project with a bit more TLC. @AGMaisey: Hello Mr Maisey, thanks for the info re the scabbard. You helped me out a year or two ago with some tips on protocol and etiquette for my trip to Malaysia which was greatly appreciated and very helpful. I am hoping to visit Empu Mazin on my next visit. On one of my visits he was finishing off a keris panjang which was a work of art and I would like to talk to him about them. This time without my kiddies chasing chickens and cats into the bush.

30th August 2012, 12:14 PM	#3
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	GM Yuli Romo demonstrating the Kampilan: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCl1T6c8w4A

6th September 2012, 09:05 PM	#5
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	MOST I HAVE SEEN WOULD BE IN THE 5 TO 6 INCH LEGNTH. THE ONES WITH 2 TO 3 INCH ARE NOT LONG ENOUGH TO FLEX AND BEND AND DON'T LOOK GOOD AND SOME EXAMPLES HAVE FRAZZELED LOOKING TUFTS WHICH TAKE AWAY FROM THE NICE LOOKS OF THE SWORD. I AM NOT SURE HOW THE HAIR IS PUT IN AS I HAVE NEVER GOT AROUND TO DOING IT. THE HAIR IS HELD IN BY A WOOD PEG BUT WEATHER THE TUFT IS INSERTED IN THE HOLE FIRST THEN THE PEG INSERTED OR THE HAIR ATTACHED TO THE PEG AND INSERTED TOGETHER ANOTHER POSSIBILITY IS IF THE HAIR WAS LONG ENOUGH SAY 12 INCHES TO FIND THE MIDDLE AND STICK IN THE HOLE AND INSERT THE PEG RESULTING IN TWO 6 INCH TUFTS PER HOLE. WHEN THE JOB IS COMPLETE THE TUFTS ARE CUT TO BE EVEN IN LEGNTH. I HAVE PONDERED THIS IN THE PAST BUT NEVER GOT THE MATERIALS AND GAVE IT A TRY SO I LOOK FORWARD TO LEARNING HOW YOU GO ABOUT IT. GOOD LUCK

6th September 2012, 09:10 PM	#6
imas560 Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 180	Thanks Vandoo