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 This blade is indeed not cancave/convex. So this is not a mandau Both sides are the same. I believe there is a specific name for it parang "..   ..".I am not the best in this name game. Maybe Maurice or Michael can assist.   Best regards, Willem  | 
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			Actually it's not called a mandau at all if it is Iban, even if concave/convex, but an ilang or parang ilang. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	Some maybe would like to call it a gayang, but based on the "production date" it is probably more correct to just call it an Iban parang (the generic term). Michael  | 
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			Hello Michael, 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	Thanks, "parang gayang" was indeed the term I was looking for. Why do you feel that the production date influences the name ? Best regards, Willem  | 
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			Willem, 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	It's because I suspect that this parang was made for symbolic use, not actual warfare or as a jungle tool. But that's just my personal principle for classifications of weapons... Michael  | 
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			That is a way of classification that I have seen before. (a infamous balato thread on this forum) So in order too remember the old names, I prefer too collect old examples   
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	  Indeed this example is probably too recent to be for warfare and too elaborate to be a tool. Ps. still looking foward too some more pictures of the blade  
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			Thanks for all the info guys! 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	The spine is indeed concave - as I believe I pointed out in my first post somewhere in the Wall O'Text up there.   No worries guys, we in the digital generations have nuked our attention span a looong time ago.  ![]() I have no doubt that the blade has been used for practical tasks over a longer period. The angle and diversity of the micro-scratches are consistent with the ones I for instance have made over the years on my own field-panga or seen on other choppers still in use. There are likewise visible signs of sharpening, dulling and chipping of the edge etc. As per your suggestions, I will take closeups of the handle thread, the ricasso area, the fullers and the carvings on the scabbard and be back. Thank you to all who've commented - you guys are great! All the best, - Thor  | 
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   Speaking of attention span, still waiting on some more detailed photos...  
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