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Old 16th June 2012, 05:55 AM   #1
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excellent craftmanship on this piece. Can you post close ups of the hilt? perhaps one from the top of the hilt to see if its rhino or not. The blade looks pretty good have you checked if its 2 layer type or a forged one?
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Old 16th June 2012, 07:10 AM   #2
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excellent craftmanship on this piece. Can you post close ups of the hilt? perhaps one from the top of the hilt to see if its rhino or not. The blade looks pretty good have you checked if its 2 layer type or a forged one?
Hi Lofty,
The blade looks to be forged. I will take some more pics of the hilt tomorrow when daylight returns.
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Old 16th June 2012, 09:49 AM   #3
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Congratulations Stu! Realy excelent quality silver work. A pleasure to see.

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Old 16th June 2012, 10:09 AM   #4
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What a great piece Stu. Excellent all round, I bet you're well chuffed?
I know I would be if it were mine
Well done buddy.
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Old 16th June 2012, 10:46 AM   #5
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What a great piece Stu. Excellent all round, I bet you're well chuffed?
I know I would be if it were mine
Well done buddy.
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Old 16th June 2012, 04:23 PM   #6
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Hi Stu
excellent jambiya , especially with his belt, accessories
and the stamp of the master craftsman, which authenticates the origin

if one day you look for a shelter for it, I should ... surely find a place
thanks to have given us the pleasure to share with us

all the best

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Old 16th June 2012, 05:26 PM   #7
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Salaams Khanjar 1~ This is indeed an important addition to Forum reminding us that these silversmiths are all but lost to history although there is a handful left operating in Yemen. It further serves to illustrate the linkage and influence reflected in Omani silverwork underscored by Ruth Hawley in her famous pamphlet Omani Silver who states that Quote "Jews too may have worked silver in Oman".Unquote. She goes on to draw several parallels with Omani and Yemeni silver designs.

See http://thewalters.org/eventscalendar...ls.aspx?e=2548 for further work by such Yemeni Jewish masters including important buckle identification and another Thuma.

Jesus ben Sirach (Ecclesiastus) writing during the Greek period at the end of the third century BCE, describes the activity of Judaic smiths in vivid poetry:

The maker of carving and cunning device,
Who by night as by day has no rest,
Who engraveth signet rings,
Whose art is to make the likeness true,
And his anxiety is to complete the work.
So also the smith that sitteth by the furnace,
And regardeth his weighty vessels;
The flame of the fire cracketh his flesh,
And with the heat of his furnace he gloweth;
To the hammer's sound he inclineth his ear,
And to the vessel's pattern he directeth his eyes.

For an interesting historical version of Jewish craftsmanship including their presence in Yemen and other countries in Arabia see http://www.hebrewhistory.info/factpa...017-1_gold.htm

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Old 17th June 2012, 03:20 AM   #8
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excellent craftmanship on this piece. Can you post close ups of the hilt? perhaps one from the top of the hilt to see if its rhino or not. The blade looks pretty good have you checked if its 2 layer type or a forged one?
Hi Lofty,
Here are close ups as requested. Hope someone can identify if its rhino or not.
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Old 17th June 2012, 05:32 AM   #9
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Its a nice hilt but I dont think its Rhino. I think there is a chance that the hilt is more recent than the scabbard and blade though but thats ok since its a common practice.
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Old 17th June 2012, 07:01 AM   #10
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I'm not sure... I would like to see a close-up of the very end. It has a Rhino look to me.
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Old 17th June 2012, 07:27 AM   #11
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No Rhino there Stu but a very fine piece, congrats.

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Old 18th June 2012, 05:01 AM   #12
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Thanks Lofty, Monti and Gav. Must admit I did not think it was rhino, but then I do not have the experience to know by looking at it.
Happy anyway!
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Hello Stu
I know that you didn't request it, but for the "fun"
we tried to translate the silversmith stamp ... under reserve, should be
AARON BEN CHAMAT

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