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Moshah · 9th June 2012, 02:38 PM

hmm...was this keris a kamardhikan? Or badly repaired?

David · 9th June 2012, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Moshah

hmm...was this keris a kamardhikan? Or badly repaired?

I won't speak to the age of this keris, but where do you see a repair?

Moshah · 10th June 2012, 01:07 AM

Well, maybe besutan at the edge, or a replacement gonjo?

I can only guess, coz I don't really know, Dave.

Jean · 10th June 2012, 08:52 AM

From the pictures I don't see any steel core and the gonjo seems to properly match with the blade both physically and colour-wise. In spite of the worn-out pamor and iron pitting, the ricikan look neat and sharp (kembang kacang, greneng, etc) so I would assess the blade as probably recent but other opinions are welcome.

Regards

asomotif · 10th June 2012, 10:24 AM

I like the worn out pamor.
And the pendok, Is it suassa ?

Best regards,
Willem

A. G. Maisey · 10th June 2012, 01:44 PM

Look very closely at the joint between the gonjo and the base of the blade, especially directly under the pesi, now look at the degree of erosion to the greneng.

Draw your own conclusions.

Moshah · 10th June 2012, 03:58 PM

I really couldn't tell if the pendok is really suassa...how to test it?

If the gonjo was a replacement, was it recently made?

Under my untrained eyes, the besi of the blade looks identical to the besi of the gonjo...

Rick · 10th June 2012, 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

Look very closely at the joint between the gonjo and the base of the blade, especially directly under the pesi, now look at the degree of erosion to the greneng.

Draw your own conclusions.

What I see is very little erosion to the greneng, and what looks like filler between the blade & gonjo .

9th June 2012, 02:38 PM	#1
Moshah Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 171	hmm...was this keris a kamardhikan? Or badly repaired?

10th June 2012, 01:07 AM	#3
Moshah Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 171	Well, maybe besutan at the edge, or a replacement gonjo? I can only guess, coz I don't really know, Dave.

10th June 2012, 08:52 AM	#4
Jean Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,740	From the pictures I don't see any steel core and the gonjo seems to properly match with the blade both physically and colour-wise. In spite of the worn-out pamor and iron pitting, the ricikan look neat and sharp (kembang kacang, greneng, etc) so I would assess the blade as probably recent but other opinions are welcome. Regards

10th June 2012, 10:24 AM	#5
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,235	I like the worn out pamor. And the pendok, Is it suassa ? Best regards, Willem

10th June 2012, 01:44 PM	#6
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,047	Look very closely at the joint between the gonjo and the base of the blade, especially directly under the pesi, now look at the degree of erosion to the greneng. Draw your own conclusions.

10th June 2012, 03:58 PM	#7
Moshah Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 171	I really couldn't tell if the pendok is really suassa...how to test it? If the gonjo was a replacement, was it recently made? Under my untrained eyes, the besi of the blade looks identical to the besi of the gonjo...