Tabak?

Spunjer · 17th May 2012, 02:36 AM

oops, looks like i started something... didn't mean to put you in a predicament, detlef! by all means, it''s your choice. wouter and robert had excellent points as well.

Sajen · 17th May 2012, 12:09 PM

Don't worry friends, I will handle it very carefully!

Sajen · 5th June 2012, 06:54 PM

Have received it already longer. There is no evidence that there ever have been wire around the handle. After some aid the leather scabbard look very nice again, the white at the backside was relics of an old paper lable but nothing to read anymore. I have decided to let the blade patinated, I only have cleaned it carefully with WD 40. Here some additional pictures. Is it possible that the blade was made from a file? This is the second piece from the Philippines where I found this marks on the blade.

Regards,

Detlef

Lew · 6th June 2012, 12:27 AM

Detlef

Yours probably never had a wire wrap. Below is a tabak in my collection as you can see the holes were the wire wrap was attached.

Rick · 6th June 2012, 01:59 AM

Oh yes, made from a file .

What I really like about this example is the scabbard embossing .
I find it to be a bit out of the ordinary and quite nice !

Congratulations on this one Detlef .

Lew, that is a very interesting motto on your blade, "Philippino War Knife"

D'you suppose that was added after the fact to your excellent example ?

The piece is absolutely correct, but "Krieg " ??

Or does it say "Knife" ?

Lew · 6th June 2012, 03:54 AM

Actually Rick the 31st was stationed in the Philippines in 1918 and the initials are from the sellers great uncle who was stationed in the Philippines in 1918. I've been in contact with the curator at Fort Drum and he said he would love to have it for the war museum. Of course someone must have polished the blade at one point

.

http://www.drum.army.mil/AboutFortDr...useum_lv2.aspx

Btw it's knife

VANDOO · 6th June 2012, 03:59 AM

SEVERAL GREAT EXAMPLES SHOWN HERE NOT THE ONES WITH FANCY INLAYED BLADES OR CARVED HANDLES WITH SILVER BUT THE LEATHER SHEATHS ARE FIRST QUALITY ON SOME AND ALL ARE GOOD WORKING EXAMPLES.
THIS MAKES ME WONDER IF THIS DEGREE OF LEATHER WORK ORIGINATED WITH THE SPANISH PRESENCE WHO NO DOUBT COULD HAVE TAUGHT THE CRAFT TO LOCAL PHILIPINOS. THE WORKMANSHIP LOOKS SIMULAR TO SOME SPANISH WORK AND I THINK LEATHER WAS MORE IN USE IN SPAIN THAN IN THE PHILIPPINES. JUST CONJECTURE BUT IT SEEMS POSSIBLE TO ME AS WOOD SCABBARDS WOULD GENERALLY HOLD UP BETTER IN A DAMP CLIMATE AND BE EASILY AVAILABLE WHERE A LEATHER INDUSTRY MAY HAVE NOT DEVELOPED TO A LARGE EXTENT AS A RESULT. ALSO A LOT LESS CATTLE IN THE PHILIPPINES.

Lew · 6th June 2012, 04:05 AM

Maybe water buffalo leather?

Sajen · 6th June 2012, 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VANDOO

SEVERAL GREAT EXAMPLES SHOWN HERE NOT THE ONES WITH FANCY INLAYED BLADES OR CARVED HANDLES WITH SILVER BUT THE LEATHER SHEATHS ARE FIRST QUALITY ON SOME AND ALL ARE GOOD WORKING EXAMPLES.

Agree!

Sajen · 6th June 2012, 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick

Oh yes, made from a file .

What I really like about this example is the scabbard embossing .
I find it to be a bit out of the ordinary and quite nice !

Congratulations on this one Detlef .

Thank you Rick, yes the embossing is very nice and after the maintenance it look now much better as before.

Regards,

Detlef

Sajen · 6th June 2012, 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lew

Detlef

Yours probably never had a wire wrap. Below is a tabak in my collection as you can see the holes were the wire wrap was attached.

Hello Lew,

I think so since I can't see such holes in the handle from mine. Very nice example you have there!

Regards,

Detlef

5th June 2012, 06:54 PM	#3
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,164	Have received it already longer. There is no evidence that there ever have been wire around the handle. After some aid the leather scabbard look very nice again, the white at the backside was relics of an old paper lable but nothing to read anymore. I have decided to let the blade patinated, I only have cleaned it carefully with WD 40. Here some additional pictures. Is it possible that the blade was made from a file? This is the second piece from the Philippines where I found this marks on the blade. Regards, Detlef Attached Images

6th June 2012, 12:27 AM	#4
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	Detlef Yours probably never had a wire wrap. Below is a tabak in my collection as you can see the holes were the wire wrap was attached. Attached Images

17th May 2012, 02:36 AM	#1
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	oops, looks like i started something... didn't mean to put you in a predicament, detlef! by all means, it''s your choice. wouter and robert had excellent points as well.

17th May 2012, 12:09 PM	#2
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,164	Don't worry friends, I will handle it very carefully!

6th June 2012, 01:59 AM	#5
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,336	Oh yes, made from a file . What I really like about this example is the scabbard embossing . I find it to be a bit out of the ordinary and quite nice ! Congratulations on this one Detlef . Lew, that is a very interesting motto on your blade, "Philippino War Knife" D'you suppose that was added after the fact to your excellent example ? The piece is absolutely correct, but "Krieg " ?? Or does it say "Knife" ?

6th June 2012, 03:54 AM	#6
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	Actually Rick the 31st was stationed in the Philippines in 1918 and the initials are from the sellers great uncle who was stationed in the Philippines in 1918. I've been in contact with the curator at Fort Drum and he said he would love to have it for the war museum. Of course someone must have polished the blade at one point . http://www.drum.army.mil/AboutFortDr...useum_lv2.aspx Btw it's knife

6th June 2012, 03:59 AM	#7
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	SEVERAL GREAT EXAMPLES SHOWN HERE NOT THE ONES WITH FANCY INLAYED BLADES OR CARVED HANDLES WITH SILVER BUT THE LEATHER SHEATHS ARE FIRST QUALITY ON SOME AND ALL ARE GOOD WORKING EXAMPLES. THIS MAKES ME WONDER IF THIS DEGREE OF LEATHER WORK ORIGINATED WITH THE SPANISH PRESENCE WHO NO DOUBT COULD HAVE TAUGHT THE CRAFT TO LOCAL PHILIPINOS. THE WORKMANSHIP LOOKS SIMULAR TO SOME SPANISH WORK AND I THINK LEATHER WAS MORE IN USE IN SPAIN THAN IN THE PHILIPPINES. JUST CONJECTURE BUT IT SEEMS POSSIBLE TO ME AS WOOD SCABBARDS WOULD GENERALLY HOLD UP BETTER IN A DAMP CLIMATE AND BE EASILY AVAILABLE WHERE A LEATHER INDUSTRY MAY HAVE NOT DEVELOPED TO A LARGE EXTENT AS A RESULT. ALSO A LOT LESS CATTLE IN THE PHILIPPINES.

6th June 2012, 04:05 AM	#8
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	Maybe water buffalo leather?