Pala Kilic Wootz? with European Hilt.

ariel · 14th May 2012, 02:44 AM

Ain't no Cyrillic. It does remind some Cyrillic letters, but no more than Arabic ones.

A.alnakkas · 14th May 2012, 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by ariel

Ain't no Cyrillic. It does remind some Cyrillic letters, but no more than Arabic ones.

who ever made the etching have normally used Arabic on one side. Makes no sense if he/she would etch pseudo Arabic gibberish on the other side. Imho, there is a 'k' and '5' on the other 'latin' inscription but I could be wrong. Interesting piece anyways!

Gavin Nugent · 14th May 2012, 01:01 PM

An awesome sword Norman, thanks for sharing!

Gav

Norman McCormick · 14th May 2012, 03:32 PM

Hi Guys,
Thanks to all for your continued interest and comments. Am still searching the net etc. for more answers. Please feel free to chip in with any ideas.

Regards,
Norman.

Dom · 15th May 2012, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by A.alnakkas

mho, there is a 'k' and '5' on the other 'latin' inscription but I could be wrong. Interesting piece anyways!

Salam Aleikum my Brother
you are nearly right

- the "k" seems to be really a "k" ... but the "5" I have a doubt

I practiced a little bit the paleography with French documents for genealogical purpose,
with this experience, I think that may be;
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Serb alphabet extracted from Wikipedia

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Originally Posted by A.alnakkas

highly doubt that Serbs will quote Quran so it could be muslims speaker of the language.

it sure, that the Serbs wasn't Arabic speakers, but part of them was (are, still yet) Muslims
the Ottoman empire was until Vienna's gates, for a long time
as you know, it was always more Muslims than Arabic speakers, as well as now
also nothing strange, to find Islamic mention on weapons not Arabic

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Originally Posted by A.alnakkas

The inscription at the top says "bashir almumeneen" (bring glad tidings to the believers. Quranic verse) the bottom one says "hibir/hisir (?) albab" (I think its either a name or a sufi reference albab means door)

may I suggest you, what my translator ... read

BASHIR AL MUMENEEN, KHAYR AL BAB either (but may be you could be better than me for that ...) GIVE THEM THE HOPE TO GET THE PARADISE
as far as I understood; "khayr al bab" it's the best door of the paradise, who has several

enough ... that's set for today ...

à +

Dom

14th May 2012, 02:44 AM	#1
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Ain't no Cyrillic. It does remind some Cyrillic letters, but no more than Arabic ones.

14th May 2012, 01:01 PM	#3
Gavin Nugent Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,818	An awesome sword Norman, thanks for sharing! Gav

14th May 2012, 03:32 PM	#4
Norman McCormick Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,613	Hi Guys, Thanks to all for your continued interest and comments. Am still searching the net etc. for more answers. Please feel free to chip in with any ideas. Regards, Norman.