Indian battlement gun

Mefidk · 5th May 2012, 07:53 AM

Thanks for the input guys - apologies for not getting back sooner.

I've not been able to find anything else out about these numbers. I did find this for sale recently (unfortunately I did not buy it).
Apart from the last four digits the numbers are the same, so this indicates a system of some sort. Whether its inventory numbers or export as suggested by Richard I have no idea.

My only other toradar has 485 stamped on the stock, but no numbers on the barrel. But I guess there are many routes to Europe for these and not all would have been controlled (e.g. if it was a war bring back), so the absence of numbers does not prove anything either way.

Chris

Mefidk · 5th May 2012, 04:04 PM

I forgot to mention that the muzzle decoration on both Jaipur marked examples is rather similar. Again I have no idea whether this is important or coincidence. Perhaps if others have similarly stamped examples we might get some clues?

Cerjak · 19th May 2012, 04:09 PM

I chris
I Just bought one last week who is around 190 cm ,you could see the pics in my new thread.( very similar than your's)
Kind Regards

Cerjak

Mefidk · 19th May 2012, 09:16 PM

Hi Cerjak - congratulations on that toradar

The muzzle decoration is indeed very similar to mine and the other pictured in the post. Can't be just coincidence. Looks like you are lucky and also have a match holder on yours too!
I'm not sure what it is but these are appealing somehow - not pretty but extremely functional.
The numbers on the butt are very different from mine, so I guess this is another rack numbering or something. You don't seem to have Jaipur armoury marks on the barrel either - so we are at least getting some variety. Since the last post I have found another mother of pearl decorated gun with JPR stamps, a battlement gun with, and another without JPR stamps - unfortunately all three of these also eluded me

I am still assuming/hoping somebody must know about these Jaipur numbers - when and why they were applied?

Chris

Lee · 27th September 2015, 01:17 PM

Received in my e-mail:

Quote:

In February 2012 there was a thread on your forums concerning the origin of some particular guns

There was a question of the origin of these guns. I have recently moved house and have found some old papers

These guns numbers JPR/EXR/2/3730 to 9101 came from Royal Jaigarh Fort Jaipur and were discovered in bricked up area .

My papers are dated 1978

Hope helps

5th May 2012, 07:53 AM	#1
Mefidk Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Denmark Posts: 157	Thanks for the input guys - apologies for not getting back sooner. I've not been able to find anything else out about these numbers. I did find this for sale recently (unfortunately I did not buy it). Apart from the last four digits the numbers are the same, so this indicates a system of some sort. Whether its inventory numbers or export as suggested by Richard I have no idea. My only other toradar has 485 stamped on the stock, but no numbers on the barrel. But I guess there are many routes to Europe for these and not all would have been controlled (e.g. if it was a war bring back), so the absence of numbers does not prove anything either way. Chris Attached Images

19th May 2012, 04:09 PM	#3
Cerjak Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: FRANCE Posts: 1,065	TORADOR I chris I Just bought one last week who is around 190 cm ,you could see the pics in my new thread.( very similar than your's) Kind Regards Cerjak Attached Images

5th May 2012, 04:04 PM	#2
Mefidk Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Denmark Posts: 157	I forgot to mention that the muzzle decoration on both Jaipur marked examples is rather similar. Again I have no idea whether this is important or coincidence. Perhaps if others have similarly stamped examples we might get some clues?

19th May 2012, 09:16 PM	#4
Mefidk Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Denmark Posts: 157	Hi Cerjak - congratulations on that toradar The muzzle decoration is indeed very similar to mine and the other pictured in the post. Can't be just coincidence. Looks like you are lucky and also have a match holder on yours too! I'm not sure what it is but these are appealing somehow - not pretty but extremely functional. The numbers on the butt are very different from mine, so I guess this is another rack numbering or something. You don't seem to have Jaipur armoury marks on the barrel either - so we are at least getting some variety. Since the last post I have found another mother of pearl decorated gun with JPR stamps, a battlement gun with, and another without JPR stamps - unfortunately all three of these also eluded me I am still assuming/hoping somebody must know about these Jaipur numbers - when and why they were applied? Chris