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David R · 4th May 2012, 09:28 AM

Hi Dom, regarding the scabbard stitching, the thread is passed through short lengths of "gold bullion" which is a spiral wire used in embroidery, it is in fact usualy gold plated over silver. They still use it for uniforms in the UK, mainly for insignia, badges and rank markings. Also used in India for their goldwork on textiles.
If you have difficulty in getting it I have a couple of contacts that might help.

Dom · 4th May 2012, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by David R

If you have difficulty in getting it I have a couple of contacts that might help.

Thanks a lot David
this kind of information is very important, too important to be ignored

and I've no touch in that field, actually

thank you in advance for information, and for your kind help

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Dom

Timo Nieminen · 10th May 2012, 10:49 PM

My newest: a kukri/khukuri with a carved horn hilt. What is the tool with the loop used for?

kronckew · 11th May 2012, 10:14 AM

it's a button hook. typical tool with some khukuris. rare to find shoes with buttons nowadays, so most people have no clue as to what it is or how to use it. google 'button hook'.

the two most usually found standard tools are a karda - small utility knife - and a chakma(k) which is a hardened unsharpened tool used for burnishing the edge. some come with a multitude of tools: tweezers, awls, fire striker, tinder pouch, etc.

Timo Nieminen · 11th May 2012, 11:33 AM

My only guess for the hook tool would have been ear cleaner, but those are usually spoon shaped (at least in East Asia). Looking now, I see that ear cleaners in kukri tool kits have the same kind of spoon shaped tips as East Asian ones.

Both other tools are sharpened. Don't know if they originally were; both have signs of non-original sharpening. Haven't checked hardness yet.

Rick · 11th May 2012, 03:20 PM

No ?

David R · 23rd May 2012, 01:29 AM

Went to a local arms fair on Sunday, varied lots as always, and came away with these.
The curved knife is a puzzler, a sort of mini Kindjal. It is a tourist piece it is much better than the run of the mill item. My guess it has no great age, but made for wear with national costume, for dance or festival, or even for a child. The grip scales are horn, inlaid with dots of a pink material, and the grey rivit heads of base metal. The blade a good bright steel. The scabbard is neatly made, wood core, covered with leather and blackened metal.
Comments welcomed, actually comments invited please, I would like peeps opinion on both of these.
The update is on the kote, I took them into the R.A. where they were seen by Ian Bottomly. They are full kote for an "ashigaru" peasant spearman, cheap munition armour. The long plate at the right is the shoulder plate, small plates and mail on the upper arm, mail over the elbow, and long plates over the fore arm, no handguard as that is a samurai feature. Probably early Edo therefore, and Ian thinks they could even be 16thC.

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David R Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 1,114	Latest aquisitions and an update on an older. Went to a local arms fair on Sunday, varied lots as always, and came away with these. The curved knife is a puzzler, a sort of mini Kindjal. It is a tourist piece it is much better than the run of the mill item. My guess it has no great age, but made for wear with national costume, for dance or festival, or even for a child. The grip scales are horn, inlaid with dots of a pink material, and the grey rivit heads of base metal. The blade a good bright steel. The scabbard is neatly made, wood core, covered with leather and blackened metal. Comments welcomed, actually comments invited please, I would like peeps opinion on both of these. The update is on the kote, I took them into the R.A. where they were seen by Ian Bottomly. They are full kote for an "ashigaru" peasant spearman, cheap munition armour. The long plate at the right is the shoulder plate, small plates and mail on the upper arm, mail over the elbow, and long plates over the fore arm, no handguard as that is a samurai feature. Probably early Edo therefore, and Ian thinks they could even be 16thC. Attached Images Last edited by David R; 23rd May 2012 at 01:38 AM. Reason: More info.

4th May 2012, 09:28 AM	#1
David R Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 1,114	Hi Dom, regarding the scabbard stitching, the thread is passed through short lengths of "gold bullion" which is a spiral wire used in embroidery, it is in fact usualy gold plated over silver. They still use it for uniforms in the UK, mainly for insignia, badges and rank markings. Also used in India for their goldwork on textiles. If you have difficulty in getting it I have a couple of contacts that might help.

11th May 2012, 10:14 AM	#4
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,215	it's a button hook. typical tool with some khukuris. rare to find shoes with buttons nowadays, so most people have no clue as to what it is or how to use it. google 'button hook'. the two most usually found standard tools are a karda - small utility knife - and a chakma(k) which is a hardened unsharpened tool used for burnishing the edge. some come with a multitude of tools: tweezers, awls, fire striker, tinder pouch, etc.

11th May 2012, 11:33 AM	#5
Timo Nieminen Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 422	My only guess for the hook tool would have been ear cleaner, but those are usually spoon shaped (at least in East Asia). Looking now, I see that ear cleaners in kukri tool kits have the same kind of spoon shaped tips as East Asian ones. Both other tools are sharpened. Don't know if they originally were; both have signs of non-original sharpening. Haven't checked hardness yet.