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14th April 2012, 03:14 PM
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yataghan inscription translation
Hi, everyone,
Please, help me translating the inscription of that yataghan. Hope Zifir and Dom will help me!  Reagards, Dandi |
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15th April 2012, 05:28 PM
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translation partially done  AMAL MUSTAFA ??????? AMIN either MADE BY MUSTAFA ???? AMIN SANA either DATE now, it's seems to have a digit for date, but under reserve 12 (under reserve) 73 (I think so) either ±1856 à + Dom |
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15th April 2012, 08:16 PM
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Thank you, Dom!
I appreciate your help and I am very happy that I may contact people like you. Once again thank you very much for your reply and that you paid attantion to me. According to this I agree with David R who said that damaged, incomplete, and stripped weapons are often more informative than perfect examples. I would like to show you here some of my possessions - yataghans, found in villages near my home town - one of the centers of gun craft and trade in the past. The yataghans are not luxory made, but they are made for ordinary people to use them in battles. I would like also to show you some knives made in Bulgaria in the same period named ''karakulak'' and ''akulak'' /which means black and white ear/. |
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16th April 2012, 05:59 PM
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"villages near your home town" ... may be ... you could be more explicit  because Bulgaria it's a large country  each year, or nearly, I'm crossing Bulgaria, from Serbia, to Turkey on my way to ... Cairo I have to confess that we never made a stop over in Bulgaria, the language barrier it's a brake  ... we are fluent in 3 languages; French, English and Arabic, but no one Slave language ... nobody 's perfect .. lol I learned at least something today, because, I wasn't have ideas about ''karakulak'' and ''akulak'' your collection is very attractive, and intructive concerning weapons of high origins, everybody, included myself, haven't a "Topkapi" quality my yatagans as well as yours, was with people of average extraction, don't be shy here attached, pictures for my 3 yatagans best regards à + Dom |
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17th April 2012, 06:14 PM
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Hi Dom,
The yataghans and the karakulaks that I presented here are from the region of my home town Sliven and the villages near it, but they are also wide spread all over Bulgaria, especially in the mountains. Sliven was one of the largest industrial centers in Bulgaria in past. Here in Sliven, have been manufactured the famous shishane of Sliven and boiliya-decorated with pearls and brass elements and horns from buffalos.The have the famous flint mechanism.If you are interested I may show you here some examples of such rifels from my collection. The yataghans that you showed me here from your collection are very beautiful and of high quality. I wish I could have any like yours! According to the stands on which the yataghans are exposed I see we use the same kind of stands. So I would like to show you my stand with karakulaks and a set of arnaut pistols.There is a stamp under the barrel of one of them. So may be anybody may help me and comment this stamp.Best wishes, Dandi |
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17th April 2012, 06:29 PM
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18th April 2012, 06:41 PM
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Hi Dandi,
A supplement to Dom's reading: Amal Mustafa Sahib Molla Emin (Amin) - Molla means religious scholar (usually in a small village / or a minor scholar in a city, speaking of course in 19th century context) I think the date is 1273 as Dom suggested it. And yes, please I would like very much to see examples of famous Sliven (İslimiye in Ottoman Turkish) şişhanes. Best, |
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18th April 2012, 10:29 PM
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Dandi, I look at your beautiful "rattail pistols", and we try to see/read something on barrel stamp ... hopeless I realized my total lack of knowledge about the "shishane or boyle", and Bulgarian weapons in general also, I bought a book "Weaponry of the past" written by Nikola Daskalov and Vyara Kovacheva, and edited at "Sofia Press" the book began be rare, and I found it in England, I could received it under 10/15 days I got the references here on our site Zifir, could it be ... forecast at your convenience, a trip together to "Sirven" and around (with my car) that seems not too far from Istanbul, could be a good program, and nice opportunity, may be to discover something ?  all the best my friends à + Dom |
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15th April 2012, 08:44 PM
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This is the first yataghan.
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15th April 2012, 08:59 PM
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One more yataghan.
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15th April 2012, 09:12 PM
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15th April 2012, 09:17 PM
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Yataghan from Anatolia
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15th April 2012, 09:28 PM
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15th April 2012, 09:30 PM
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