Recently made Omani Kattara / Saif

[A.alnakkas]

"I have one being Iconised with the Royal Hilt now"

Can you explain please?

[Ibrahiim al Balooshi]

Originally Posted by A.alnakkas

"I have one being Iconised with the Royal Hilt now"

Can you explain please?

Salaams A.alnakkas ~ I have a few old Omani Battle Swords and have one in my workshop being fitted with a royal hilt ~ see picture of Sayf Yamaani and the longer dancing pageant Sayf and the other picture of a Royal Hilt.~
Im putting together an Omani Battle Sword and a Royal Hilt.

Regards,
Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

[A.alnakkas]

Ibrahim, are you refitting an old complete blade?? Its your choice but.. it seems like destroying a good antique ;-(

[Ibrahiim al Balooshi]

Originally Posted by A.alnakkas

Ibrahim, are you refitting an old complete blade?? Its your choice but.. it seems like destroying a good antique ;-(

Well I have plenty you know... and I always wanted an Iconized Old Omani Battlesword ... and some spare blades etc in the workshops... If it works well I may do a few more... they make good gifts . The hard part is getting a decent scabbard built but I have some originals to copy.

[kahnjar1]

Originally Posted by Ibrahiim al Balooshi

Well I have plenty you know... and I always wanted an Iconized Old Omani Battlesword ... and some spare blades etc in the workshops... If it works well I may do a few more... they make good gifts . The hard part is getting a decent scabbard built but I have some originals to copy.

....but you are NOT creating the real thing....just a REPLICA I do hope that when complete, that it is clearly labeled or the hilt stamped as such, so as not to deceive possible buyers/owners in years to come.
There are enough so called "genuine" pieces around already which the uneducated pay large amounts of money for.....

[David]

Originally Posted by kahnjar1

....but you are NOT creating the real thing....just a REPLICA I do hope that when complete, that it is clearly labeled or the hilt stamped as such, so as not to deceive possible buyers/owners in years to come.
There are enough so called "genuine" pieces around already which the uneducated pay large amounts of money for.....

I have to agree here. The problem is not so much in who Ibrahiim chooses to gift or sell to, but who might receive the sword somewhere down the line when the history of the sword is lost or misplaced. Then it becomes a forgery.

[David]

As for the other question at hand, i admittedly know very little about these swords, but to my untrained eye i cannot see how the hilts on these so-called "dance swords" would be at all practical in a battle situation. Not only is there no cross piece to protect the hand, but also no pommel of any substance to keep the blade from slipping out of the hand in the heat of battle.

[Ibrahiim al Balooshi]

Originally Posted by kahnjar1

....but you are NOT creating the real thing....just a REPLICA I do hope that when complete, that it is clearly labeled or the hilt stamped as such, so as not to deceive possible buyers/owners in years to come.
There are enough so called "genuine" pieces around already which the uneducated pay large amounts of money for.....

Salaams kahnjar1~ So that you can understand the Iconization process throughout history you may like to read the balanced and well presented thread at Kattara for comments. In any restoration project whatever is done should be easily reversible. Infact when I rehilt a blade I always keep the original and often frame that as a small presentation for the new owner... and certificate with as accurate a history as I can. Iconization of the old omani battle sword goes on today as a natural extension of the 19th C process and that will be a family sword carried at state occasions pageants and the like in honour of our history...

Regards,
Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

[kahnjar1]

Originally Posted by Ibrahiim al Balooshi

Salaams kahnjar1~ So that you can understand the Iconization process throughout history you may like to read the balanced and well presented thread at Kattara for comments. In any restoration project whatever is done should be easily reversible. Infact when I rehilt a blade I always keep the original and often frame that as a small presentation for the new owner... and certificate with as accurate a history as I can. Iconization of the old omani battle sword goes on today as a natural extension of the 19th C process and that will be a family sword carried at state occasions pageants and the like in honour of our history...

Regards,
Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

Call it what you like, but my point was that in future years, if this REPLICA surfaces for resale, the future buyer could well be duped if the seller suggests that this is a RARE ORIGINAL ROYAL HILTED SWORD or suchlike and ends up paying huge amounts of money for something which is nothing more than a FAKE. I think by now we all know how good your workshop is at turning out modern made items, so all I am trying to do is safeguard the collectors of the future.