Unknown coat-of-arms dating to the 16th century

[Indianajones]

Hello Jean -Marc,
I am not an expert on swords but I believe the coat of arms (and signs on the rest of the sword) are partly english, partly French. The coat of arms also exists of 4 combined; I do know the lower left part very well as the crosses are the sign of the Templars!
I believe the stretched out lions above that (crosses-section) are of English origin and the 'Fleur de Li's' (largely depicted on the sword and topright part of ct f arm) are French.
Perhaps this little info may just point you in the right searchdirection?!?!?

Good luck, Wouter

[Norman McCormick]

Originally Posted by Indianajones

Hello Jean -Marc,
I am not an expert on swords but I believe the coat of arms (and signs on the rest of the sword) are partly english, partly French. The coat of arms also exists of 4 combined; I do know the lower left part very well as the crosses are the sign of the Templars!
I believe the stretched out lions above that (crosses-section) are of English origin and the 'Fleur de Li's' (largely depicted on the sword and topright part of ct f arm) are French.
Perhaps this little info may just point you in the right searchdirection?!?!?

Good luck, Wouter

Hi,
I think you'll find that the cross is known as the Cross of Jerusalem amongst others and nothing to do with the Templars and the lions are facing the wrong way to be English although the French attribution may have some substance.
Regards,
Norman.

[cornelistromp]

The makers mark stamped on is of the family Stantler (Munchen/Passau till 1647).
I would start the search in Germany and Switzerland.
I will consult some books, can you post pictures of the sword?

best,

[Jean-Marc S.]

Hello all,

Thanks so much for your advised comments on this two handed sword. It appears that the coat-of-arms represents:

First quarter: Swabia (Germany) or reversed three passing lions (England) ?
Second quarter: Three Fleurs de Lys (French Royalty)
Third quarter: Kingdom of Jerusalem
Fourth quarter: Old burgundy, or Lord of Plouasne ???

The crown is a Royal one.

Could it be descendants of Ferdinand II ?

Thanks for your help,

jm

[Jean-Marc S.]

Pics of two handed sword

[Matchlock]

Originally Posted by cornelistromp

The makers mark stamped on is of the family Stantler (Munchen/Passau till 1647).
I would start the search in Germany and Switzerland.
I will consult some books, can you post pictures of the sword?

best,

Exactly, Jasper,

The fact that the characteristic South German (Bavarian) orb and cross mark was deeply struck into the iron when still warm points towards the Stantler workshops, who are known to have used this mark for armory orders. As the overall shape and the style of the etching denote this blade was almost certainly wrought by the workshop of Wolfgang Stantler, Munich, ca. 1590-1600.

A similar, finely etched two-sword blade, Swiss, dated 1617, was hammered down at Galerie Fischer, Lucerne, 6 September 2007, for 11.000 SFr - see attachments.

Best,
Michael