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Old 12th March 2012, 09:46 AM   #1
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Wow great results!; isnt this what these forums are about!
Kind regards, Wouter
Great results huh Wouter!
But..... what are these forums all about? To learn from collectors and than sew them one ear? (een oor aannaaien?)

It's a shame some of my foreign friendcollectors have been swindled by you Wouter!!

Sorry Charles for messing up your interesting thread!
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Old 12th March 2012, 09:54 AM   #2
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Yes, it seems that the famous "fake or break" con man Wouter K has found this forum. Buyers beware!

Michael

PS A pity the warning thread was removed. But actually he is the only one I can think of after having done over 300 eBay transactions + 100's of other deals worldwide.
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Old 12th March 2012, 12:40 PM   #3
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It seems Maurice is angry at me! Reason? I really dont know you and not what you refer to?! (Am not sure if I'm interested to even hear)(sewing/ears?!?)

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Interesting to see the second type of Murut sword apart from the 'pakayun'(is it called) with the 2pronged handle. Though I personnally still see more resemblance with the Bidayuh parang buko.

>>Hope we all can stay objective here . . . . .Finding out Charles' sword origins is something far off 'personal' for me and would be glad to be proven wrong!
Greetings,
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Old 12th March 2012, 03:22 PM   #4
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Maurice / VVV

These types of personal attacks on the open forum will not be tolerated! So keep it civil.

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Old 12th March 2012, 10:45 PM   #5
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News travels fast in this small collectors world... i am a bit astonished too

Lookslike this thread is meeting its end.
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Old 13th March 2012, 12:39 PM   #6
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If am allowed to reply VERY shortly; 1. have not had a negative feedback on ebay in two years! 2. besides a few fakes (on ebay)I do also sell very good n rare authentic items! Also to satisfied forumites!

Thread; have checked the RMV museumcollection but havent found anything similar. Tropenmuseumcollection online was too slow for my lack of patience.

It does seem that Murut handle ferrules and Bidayuh ferrules are often quite alike.
>> unless I find a very similar sword I will restrain from replying on this thread for obvious reasons.
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Old 13th March 2012, 01:40 PM   #7
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It does seem that Murut handle ferrules and Bidayuh ferrules are often quite alike.
No,
quite often the Bidayuh do not have ferrules at all, sometimes they have quite plain.
However, now and then they have the neighboring Melanau people, famous for their silver skills, do their ferrules for them. The examples with the silver ferrules in this thread (Dajak's Latok and my silver sangkit) seems to be Melanau. Actually the latok from Dajak might even be Melanau all together, which means nothing Bidayuh at all. Usually the Melanau latok sadap are much larger than the Bidayuh and have a couple of other tells on how to know which is which (being outside the focus of this thread).

Michael

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