The 4 letter "B"-word

[templarnight]

Looking at some of the pictures posted above it seems that they dont have a 'tang' either.

They also seem to be secured by a rivet.

Is this not correct then?

[Jim McDougall]

These are intriguing weapons, and it seems reasonably uncommon as far as collectible arms offerings, and it is disappointing that this example showed up in less than expected condition. I think what Ibrahiim has noted is intended toward the general readership, and like myself I often think of these threads as informational in that respect. The point is not directed in particular but reminding readers that the material in these now archived discussions are often helpful in revealing certain characteristics or things to watch for in acquiring certain item types.
Chris has made an extremely well placed point in this regard, noting that these apparantly are inclined toward certain kinds of wear and defect by thier design and dynamics of thier use.

Personally, in my collecting days even though my budget certainly limited my horizons in what I could attain as far as types of weapons, I actually preferred the worn and often battered examples which the upper hierarchy of collectors termed derisively 'dogs dinner'. To me, these worn and battered old warriors had stories to tell that the 'museum quality' decorated and festooned items usually did not. The great book by Tony Tirri which I consider a goldmine for collectors is just that because it beautifully illustrates and classifies these very kinds of weapons in the types and condition in which they typically are found by collectors.

An arms collectors most important weapon is his knowledge, and that was the point being made. In most cases I think sellers do try to accurately describe thier items (we all of course know of exceptions) however it is important to watch carefully for key elements which may have been omitted in being described. I know I certainly came into some terrible surprises in obtaining some items and soundly learned what to watch for the next time. The members here have offered valuable information in these regards in the profound archives stored in what has become encyclopedic in information.


All the best,
Jim

[laEspadaAncha]

Originally Posted by Jim McDougall

Personally, in my collecting days even though my budget certainly limited my horizons in what I could attain as far as types of weapons, I actually preferred the worn and often battered examples which the upper hierarchy of collectors termed derisively 'dogs dinner'. To me, these worn and battered old warriors had stories to tell that the 'museum quality' decorated and festooned items usually did not. The great book by Tony Tirri which I consider a goldmine for collectors is just that because it beautifully illustrates and classifies these very kinds of weapons in the types and condition in which they typically are found by collectors

Hi Jim...

While I have been fortunate one one or two occasions to acquire a presentation-grade example of a given weapon form, as a "regular guy" who collects on a modest budget, I wholeheartedly appreciate the value attached to these workman's examples by their original owners...

While more flashy, 'blingy' examples may look much, much richer and command a far greater price in the marketplace, the 'average' guy probably appreciated that one 'worker' knife or sword far more than the wealthiest man who could commission or purchase another piece on a whim, as it was likely to be the only one he had...

Best Regards,

Chris

[Stan S.]

Sorry guys, the item was shipped yesterday. I hope to come across another one in the future, hopefully in a better condition

[fearn]

Side point, but I'd like to point out a much cheaper weapon, Cold Steel's "Two-handed kukri machete." Although I don't know how the bhuj balances, the two designs are broadly similar.

If you watch the video, you see that the machete can be thrown like a spear, so I suspect a bhuj could be thrown as well. Personally, I'd suggest that it might be better to experiment with the two-handed kuk than with an antique, if anyone wants to do some experiments....

My 0.002 cents,

F

[Stan S.]

Originally Posted by fearn

Side point, but I'd like to point out a much cheaper weapon, Cold Steel's "Two-handed kukri machete." Although I don't know how the bhuj balances, the two designs are broadly similar.

If you watch the video, you see that the machete can be thrown like a spear, so I suspect a bhuj could be thrown as well. Personally, I'd suggest that it might be better to experiment with the two-handed kuk than with an antique, if anyone wants to do some experiments....

My 0.002 cents,

F

Being that I had a chance to handle this bhuj, I can say that I was quite surprised by how light weight it is. Not super effective as an axe but would be great as a stabbing and slashing weapon. Despite its light weight it is still rather top heavy, so probably wouldn't fly well