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Old 15th August 2005, 03:44 AM   #1
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Thanks Mark. I both respect and encourage your insistence that our discussions stay both civil and on topic. I must point out, however, that it would be virtually impossible to continue to have ethnographic discussion of the keris without at least occasionally entering into conversation on magick and mysticism and how it pertains to this weapon and it's culture. It's not so much a matter of belief. This is the culture of the keris, regardless of personal belief systems. The keris simply cannot be understood in a vacuum outside of this culture. It is so much more than just a beautiful bit of metalurgy.
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Old 15th August 2005, 03:58 AM   #2
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I think the atmosphere would be more pleasant and cordial if absent from name calling and fairly frequent swollen headed "barks"...
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Old 15th August 2005, 04:15 AM   #3
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Old 15th August 2005, 03:37 PM   #4
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Thanks Mark. I both respect and encourage your insistence that our discussions stay both civil and on topic. I must point out, however, that it would be virtually impossible to continue to have ethnographic discussion of the keris without at least occasionally entering into conversation on magick and mysticism and how it pertains to this weapon and it's culture. It's not so much a matter of belief. This is the culture of the keris, regardless of personal belief systems. The keris simply cannot be understood in a vacuum outside of this culture. It is so much more than just a beautiful bit of metalurgy.
My last word: it was not the subject of spirituality/magic/mysticism and how it pertains to the keris and it's culture that I consider to be inappropriate, but rather the editorial comments about the validity of such beliefs (and not to put too fine a point on it, but my perception is the one that matters here, if this thread is to stay open). 'Nuff said.
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Old 15th August 2005, 04:20 PM   #5
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Thanks for clarifying that Mark.
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Old 21st August 2005, 02:55 AM   #6
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Even a coin possess yoni power, or yoni of keris will display different pattern?
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Old 21st August 2005, 07:41 AM   #7
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What makes this yoni power?
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Old 21st August 2005, 10:33 AM   #8
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I don't know about the yoni power, but I will reiterate that nearly all objects that have metalic ions in their systems will give off some measure of electromagnetic energy. This is why, for example, some sharks have been known to attack boats - they have electromagnetic radiation sensors and mistake the metal of a boat for a really big fish and are not so much attacking it but exploring it to see what it is (sharks explore with their teeth like baby humans ). Thus a keris blade will also give off some form of magnetic and electromagnetic radiation. So will a person, leaf, penny, euro, etc. I would be interested in knowing what the comparisons look like between different keris blades with different pamor types.
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Old 21st August 2005, 01:15 PM   #9
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Hi nechesh, it's nice to know that I'm not alone in this plane of magic. I think your question already well answered in other thread Keris and Hantus, it's a belief so far, none knows the origin of yoni. I reread my last post in that thread and the last paragraph could be read like offending you, which is not. Please don't mind my modest inside view.

Hi Battara, you really can read my mind cant you?! Thank you for spelling it out.
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