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Old 16th January 2012, 05:08 PM   #1
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Aren't these daggers called Pesh Kabz ?

I don't want to Karud this thread up, but this is as close as I have to a Choora .
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Old 16th January 2012, 05:27 PM   #2
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Old 16th January 2012, 05:50 PM   #3
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Yes, I think this would be considered the Afghan version of a karud, or straight blade pesh kabz. I am not even sure "choora" is an operable Afghan term.

There is a rather famous story about Stone being shown knives from that part of the world and he heard and used the term "choora" which was not the name of a knife, but simply meant "next", as in "next example please".

I cannot confirm the story, but interesting.
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Old 16th January 2012, 06:36 PM   #4
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There is a rather famous story about Stone being shown knives from that part of the world and he heard and used the term "choora" which was not the name of a knife, but simply meant "next", as in "next example please".
Actually, "choora" simply means a knife in Urdu or Punjabi (sorry, I don't remember which one). It is a pretty generic term and can be applied to a viriety of mid-sized cutting implements. There is also a "choori", which is a small(ish) knife and is a derivative of choora. A large knife (but smaller than a khyber or salawar yataghan, which is essentially a short sword) is called a "kard". I would venture a guess that any knife that is intended not only for fighting but also for various houeshold chores can be referred to as "choora".
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Old 16th January 2012, 07:30 PM   #5
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Hello all together
my Choora.

greeting Chregu
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Old 17th January 2012, 12:44 AM   #6
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Yes, I think this would be considered the Afghan version of a karud, or straight blade pesh kabz.

Where did I read that the etymology of the word Karud is uncertain, to the point that it might just be an erroneous word, mis-heard by the europeans?
I checked Stone and Egerton, but could not find it. Dang! Alzheimer playing more games....
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Old 17th January 2012, 01:42 AM   #7
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My semi-relic doesn't look very imposing in such distinguished company, although it still retains the classic elements of the type.
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Old 17th January 2012, 03:13 AM   #8
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None of the examples shown look very household or utilitarian, except in the line of killing or wounding that is ...
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Old 17th January 2012, 12:21 PM   #9
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Blimey!! There are a lot of fine example out there! Feel free to post Karuds or even the big brother Khyber knifes. Has anybody a modern resin hilted example? We've seen a couple on Ebay, a new take on an old idea, but still interesting. Keep em coming!!
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Old 17th January 2012, 12:30 AM   #10
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Stan,
Can you show close up pic of the chape? I am interested in it's decorative motives.
Thanks.
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