Need Help to Identify Pamor and Tangguh

David · 3rd January 2012, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ivoke

in my case, i make a difference,

- the ones i bought "from the bay"...i tend to treat them with less respect as i should

-the ones i was given by friends and family: they are treated as they should be

-the ones that are in the family home in Bali: no comment on those.

It is nice that you feel able to make this distinction Ivo. But even keris bought on eBay come from a place of history and IMHO are to be treated with respect. In my case i believe in returning these items to that place of respect because without our active appreciation and honoring of these once revered objects they are indeed nothing more than metal and wood.
I do, of course, understand that certain keris will always hold a nearer and dearer place in one's heart based on the source and personal family history and connection that the keris creates.

PenangsangII · 4th January 2012, 08:22 AM

2 kerises i bought from e-bay turned out to be genuinely old and bertuah (I shall not and will not talk about this) when they were appraised by somebody who had vast experience in keris (the guy lived with his empu father). The 2 kerises currently are my pusakas.

Jean · 4th January 2012, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by PenangsangII

2 kerises i bought from e-bay turned out to be genuinely old and bertuah (I shall not and will not talk about this) when they were appraised by somebody who had vast experience in keris (the guy lived with his empu father). The 2 kerises currently are my pusakas.

Hello PenangsangII,
Could you share some pictures with us?

Regards

ivoke · 4th January 2012, 11:48 AM

think i need to clarify "i tend to treat them with less respect as i should"

-what i sometimes buy from ebay, mostly cheap new wilah's, cause i like the form and i like them polished. They stay in my desk until i find a gerantim or a tapukan. Then they go point up in a little ploncon, to be admired. I do feel that a kris bought is not the same as a keris given. I do not repair, polish or stain them.....i must admit i put them on their point sometimes.

-the keris that were given to me are in a big ploncon, get there daily dose of dupa and go to the odalan Tumpek Landep where they are washed by a Pemanku (yes there is a balinese temple here, pretty one to)

PenangsangII · 5th January 2012, 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Jean

Hello PenangsangII,
Could you share some pictures with us?

Regards

purchases of keris on ebay is a gamble actually..... out of 10 kerises, we may be lucky once or twice....

since those are already my pusaka (after undergoing tangguh and tayuh process for compatibility with my character / profession), there would be no chance of me uploading them. Sorry Jean....

4th January 2012, 08:22 AM	#2
PenangsangII Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 401	2 kerises i bought from e-bay turned out to be genuinely old and bertuah (I shall not and will not talk about this) when they were appraised by somebody who had vast experience in keris (the guy lived with his empu father). The 2 kerises currently are my pusakas.

4th January 2012, 11:48 AM	#4
ivoke Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 20	think i need to clarify "i tend to treat them with less respect as i should" -what i sometimes buy from ebay, mostly cheap new wilah's, cause i like the form and i like them polished. They stay in my desk until i find a gerantim or a tapukan. Then they go point up in a little ploncon, to be admired. I do feel that a kris bought is not the same as a keris given. I do not repair, polish or stain them.....i must admit i put them on their point sometimes. -the keris that were given to me are in a big ploncon, get there daily dose of dupa and go to the odalan Tumpek Landep where they are washed by a Pemanku (yes there is a balinese temple here, pretty one to)