ho can help me with this blade

A. G. Maisey · 21st December 2011, 02:39 AM

If the texture is smooth, almost greasy, it is very probably classifiable as Gresik.

Gresik blades look like this one, and Gresik did a lot of copies of other, genuinely prestigious, tangguhs.

I doubt that we can dignify the dhapur with a recognizable name, the pamor is a random m'lumah, thus wos wutah is good enough.

semar · 21st December 2011, 03:32 AM

thank you mister maisey
I think too that i dont get a propper name of this dapur
yesterday I have a discusie aboud the dapur and some say kabo teki
and when you say thats not posibele you get the aswer thats the freedom of the empu the say to make like this so and of discusi I think

regards semar

David · 21st December 2011, 05:56 AM

Well I wouldn't call it kebo teki....
...why don't you give it a name semar...

A. G. Maisey · 21st December 2011, 06:00 AM

An Empu has no freedom, unless he has been directed by his lord to create a new dhapur for a specific purpose, then his freedom is limited to compliance with the wishes of his lord.

A pandai keris, or a tukang does have freedom, because they make blades which do not have the spiritual content of a blade made by an empu.

This blade is not a blade made by an empu.

semar · 21st December 2011, 09:26 AM

thats what I tel them but the javanees say
you can turn it how you like so better stop whit to look voor a answer

regards semar

A. G. Maisey · 21st December 2011, 10:49 AM

Yes.

True.

Anybody can believe whatever they wish.

But belief does not reality make.

21st December 2011, 05:56 AM	#3
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,229	Well I wouldn't call it kebo teki.... ...why don't you give it a name semar... Last edited by David; 21st December 2011 at 06:41 AM.

21st December 2011, 02:39 AM	#1
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,048	If the texture is smooth, almost greasy, it is very probably classifiable as Gresik. Gresik blades look like this one, and Gresik did a lot of copies of other, genuinely prestigious, tangguhs. I doubt that we can dignify the dhapur with a recognizable name, the pamor is a random m'lumah, thus wos wutah is good enough.

21st December 2011, 03:32 AM	#2
semar Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 272	thank you mister maisey I think too that i dont get a propper name of this dapur yesterday I have a discusie aboud the dapur and some say kabo teki and when you say thats not posibele you get the aswer thats the freedom of the empu the say to make like this so and of discusi I think regards semar

21st December 2011, 06:00 AM	#4
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,048	An Empu has no freedom, unless he has been directed by his lord to create a new dhapur for a specific purpose, then his freedom is limited to compliance with the wishes of his lord. A pandai keris, or a tukang does have freedom, because they make blades which do not have the spiritual content of a blade made by an empu. This blade is not a blade made by an empu.

21st December 2011, 09:26 AM	#5
semar Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 272	thats what I tel them but the javanees say you can turn it how you like so better stop whit to look voor a answer regards semar

21st December 2011, 10:49 AM	#6
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,048	Yes. True. Anybody can believe whatever they wish. But belief does not reality make.