16-century firearms in stone

Spiridonov · 19th December 2011, 02:31 PM

Thank You for share this! It seems Croatian type of arquebuses

Matchlock · 19th December 2011, 07:55 PM

Do you have images of similar Croatian arquebuses, Alexander?

I think these barrels are Nuremberg made and the straight or crooked buttstocks were common to Central Europe 500 years ago.

Attached find illustrations from the painting Die Schlacht im Walde (The Forest Battle), Nuremberg, 1502, and from the Lucerne Chronicle by Diebold Schilling, 1513, depicting the same short and either straight or crooked buttstocks on arquebuses.

Best,
Michael

Spiridonov · 20th December 2011, 09:38 AM

Michael, I mean this type (second and third from top to bottom)

the book "Medieval handgonners" mentions that this type is croatian. We can see cross as the mark on the barrel. I have seen similar in book. But this book is muddle-headed

Matchlock · 21st December 2011, 10:52 PM

Alexander,

As I wrote I am absolutely convinced that these barrels, including the one with the cross mark, were wrought in a Nuremberg workshop. Two similar Nuremberg hackbuts with the same workshop mark, and both ca. 1490-1500, are in my collection.

Best,
Michael

Spiridonov · 22nd December 2011, 09:52 AM

this book should be thrown on a scrapyard

Matchlock · 22nd December 2011, 10:01 PM

Hi Alexander,

Before throwing it away, could we please see the hackbuts and marks in question?

Best,
Michael

Spiridonov · 18th March 2012, 06:33 PM

http://www.linkopingshistoria.se/medeltid/1400-tal/

19th December 2011, 07:55 PM	#2
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Do you have images of similar Croatian arquebuses, Alexander? I think these barrels are Nuremberg made and the straight or crooked buttstocks were common to Central Europe 500 years ago. Attached find illustrations from the painting Die Schlacht im Walde (The Forest Battle), Nuremberg, 1502, and from the Lucerne Chronicle by Diebold Schilling, 1513, depicting the same short and either straight or crooked buttstocks on arquebuses. Best, Michael Attached Images

21st December 2011, 10:52 PM	#4
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Alexander, As I wrote I am absolutely convinced that these barrels, including the one with the cross mark, were wrought in a Nuremberg workshop. Two similar Nuremberg hackbuts with the same workshop mark, and both ca. 1490-1500, are in my collection. Best, Michael Last edited by Matchlock; 22nd December 2011 at 03:57 PM.

18th March 2012, 06:33 PM	#7
Spiridonov Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Russia, Leningrad Posts: 355	http://www.linkopingshistoria.se/medeltid/1400-tal/ Attached Images

19th December 2011, 02:31 PM	#1
Spiridonov Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Russia, Leningrad Posts: 355	Thank You for share this! It seems Croatian type of arquebuses

20th December 2011, 09:38 AM	#3
Spiridonov Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Russia, Leningrad Posts: 355	Michael, I mean this type (second and third from top to bottom) the book "Medieval handgonners" mentions that this type is croatian. We can see cross as the mark on the barrel. I have seen similar in book. But this book is muddle-headed

22nd December 2011, 09:52 AM	#5
Spiridonov Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Russia, Leningrad Posts: 355	this book should be thrown on a scrapyard

22nd December 2011, 10:01 PM	#6
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Hi Alexander, Before throwing it away, could we please see the hackbuts and marks in question? Best, Michael