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[Sajen]

Originally Posted by Gustav

Gentlemen, lease take a look on this one: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...=gonjo+sitting, specially post #15.

Ben, it is your decision of course, yet it seems to be absolutely sure that gonjo should be visible on Balinese keris, and 2mm could be fine.

You are absolutely right Gustav, look for example my keris in this thread: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=13650

I reffering about my personal taste.

Regards,

Detlef

[Harley]

Hi Detlef,

I have been looking at the link you placed, but that is a real eye cacher
Especially the blade after the warangan, very, very nice!

regards,
Ben

[A. G. Maisey]

As advised in my post #35, the old style of blade fit was to sit the gonjo proud of the atasan; the more usual fit is to sit the gonjo level with the atasan.

My own observations tend to indicate that in the olden times keris of the aristocracy were mounted in what has been identified as the old way, whilst the keris of commoners were mounted with the gonjo level with the top of the atasan.

I have in my possession a keris that was once the property of the Raja of Badung. This keris was probably mounted to this wrongko in the second half of the 19th century. At its edge, the center of the gonjo sits 4mm above the top of the gonjo.

[Jussi M.]

Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

(...) the old style of blade fit was to sit the gonjo proud of the atasan; the more usual fit is to sit the gonjo level with the atasan.

My own observations tend to indicate that in the olden times keris of the aristocracy were mounted in what has been identified as the old way, whilst the keris of commoners were mounted with the gonjo level with the top of the atasan.

Kinatah?

Awesome work by the way

Thanks,

J.

[Harley]

I am trying to make a new hilt, i don't know what the name of this type is,
but i think if you see the picture you no what i mean
Later on i put some rope around it, but for now i hope you can give me advice, cause i can't make out of he's to big or not.

regards,
Ben

[A. G. Maisey]

Ben, what you have at the moment is similar to a cenangan hilt, however, the two little raised sections internal to the pommel and the cap section at the lower end don't really have a place in cenangan patterns that I have seen.

If you wrap this with twine, it will become a loncengan

Here is a pic of a loncengan, probably more usual in Lombok than in Bali.

Proportion is within acceptable parameters, but it is possible that a little shorter might be better, however, it is also possible that the photo is lying to me.

[Harley]

The one in the picture(loncengan) is the same as i was trying to make, the raised sections where there to stop the rope/twine?
I couldn't decide if it was right hight, and if you doubt that it's a little to big, it probably is, i think it's about 12 cm.
But now i know that is more common in Lombok i must decide if this is the right hilt for this keris, it's a pity i like the shape.
Thanks again Mr Maisey!

regards,
Ben

[Marcokeris]

Originally Posted by Sajen

You are absolutely right Gustav, look for example my keris in this thread: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=13650

I reffering about my personal taste.

Regards,

Detlef

Very very nice . What kind of wood (is root?)

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by Marcokeris

Very very nice . What kind of wood (is root?)

Hello Marco,

thank you. I still think that it is gembal jati (teak burl wood).

Regards,

Detlef