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Old 9th November 2011, 03:29 PM   #1
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Salaams Gene, Great info there on bronze(rust) disease worthy of inclusion into any restorers almanac. I have had the item for decades and I am in no rush to launch the axe into invasive surgery. I agree absolutely about just washing the axe free of dirt and loose flakes. I think it will last a few hundred years as it is. Perhaps a preservation wax could work. Regards Ibrahiim
You're welcome buddy.
I've used waxes and even light oils on stable verdi-gris/patina on bronze to good effect, but never on anything as heavily oxidised as this.

It's your call mate.
Lovely complete item though, congrats.
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Old 9th November 2011, 07:09 PM   #2
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Your welcome Ibrahim, actually I dont know if I would be patient enough myself to leave it soaking for some time, but that would be best. And than again wait for it to get totally dry.
May I notice that wax does leave moist (-y air) through and therefore the oxidationproces will procede. Also it -when applied richly- will leave this shiny layer on the surface which the 'general public does not appreciate' and therefore for future sales make devalues the axe.

Ah all this advice . . . . . I hear you think . . . . but one does learn from all this, dont we?! Perhaps just wait with applieing any wax, coating etc??
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Old 10th November 2011, 04:11 AM   #3
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Interesting old axe.
I think the feedback here shows that collectors do not like to ruin items by overcleaning, and use of such things as grinding wheels and acid, as some obviously do. As has been said above, it is better to preserve, rather than try to return an item to the way it used to be. Not only does it remove the"age" but also the value, and turns collectors away in droves.
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Old 10th November 2011, 02:14 PM   #4
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Interesting old axe.
I think the feedback here shows that collectors do not like to ruin items by overcleaning, and use of such things as grinding wheels and acid, as some obviously do. As has been said above, it is better to preserve, rather than try to return an item to the way it used to be. Not only does it remove the"age" but also the value, and turns collectors away in droves.
Salaams,
Yes, thats why I put it up for discussion. There are obviously huge differences between archeological artefacts and antiques and as you can see by the excellent range of replies; "forum" have observed that. That does not mean that all items have to be left un restored but due diligence must be applied to age and condition; In the case of this ancient item it may be possible to prevent further deterioration but other than that it should be left alone. As you can also see by the well informed respones to my thread on Restoration and Preservation; I think common sense is key.
Regards ~ Ibrahiim.
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Old 10th November 2011, 02:16 PM   #5
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Your welcome Ibrahim, actually I dont know if I would be patient enough myself to leave it soaking for some time, but that would be best. And than again wait for it to get totally dry.
May I notice that wax does leave moist (-y air) through and therefore the oxidationproces will procede. Also it -when applied richly- will leave this shiny layer on the surface which the 'general public does not appreciate' and therefore for future sales make devalues the axe.

Ah all this advice . . . . . I hear you think . . . . but one does learn from all this, dont we?! Perhaps just wait with applieing any wax, coating etc??
Salaams, Great advice. I will soak it and let it dry. No wax. Done!
Regards Ibrahiim.
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