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7th November 2011, 01:43 PM
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Point well taken, but I have seen fully round barshot, not the half shot popular with British and American ships. It's just that the full shot always seem to have the square bars, yet many contemporary sources will show penciled sketches of barshot looking exactly like barbells (i.e. with a rounded bar). Michael shows one example above in close-up of what appears to be what I'm speaking of, but it is broken and consists of just the ball and a partial stub of a round bar. Can anyone find other examples??
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7th November 2011, 09:50 PM
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http://marinhadeguerraportuguesa.blo...de-lisboa.html . |
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8th November 2011, 04:44 AM
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Thanks, Fernando. I had some old sites showing potential barshot for which I'm speaking, but upon trying to upload sites and pics from them, none still work-
 
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8th November 2011, 05:09 AM
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8th November 2011, 05:11 AM
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Attachments...maybe?! The second reported to be War of 1812 with provenance from battle site.
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8th November 2011, 12:46 PM
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The Ebay example looks a but phoney to me
 Looking more like a lifting weight, or other sort of thing 
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8th November 2011, 12:54 PM
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How do you like this drawing, Mark ?
The barshot style, "Palanqueta" for the Portuguese, goes in your favor  .It comes in a site dedicated to the Portuguese (independence) Restoration War, 1640-1668. . |
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8th November 2011, 10:04 PM
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Hi Mark and 'Nando,
I liked your contributions - thanks a lot, guys! Best, Michael/Michl |
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9th November 2011, 10:24 AM
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Of course, you are probably right, 'Nando. I was hoping that eBay piece might be legit, because as of now, it is the type of which I speak. My piece is similar, so could be a very old dumbell, but the jury is still out. Most dumbells were marked in some way, either on the individual balls or on the bar. These marks could include patent numbers, maker marks or weight size. Likewise, the old cast iron types, referred to among collectors of such as "circus strongman barbells" typically had..huh hum...huge balls with a very short bar between them just big enough for one hand. Likewise, frequently the bar itself would flair in the middle to allow a better grip.
Barshot had continued use all the way up until the American Civil War and it seems that by this point, the barshot (of the early/mid 19th) might have taken on more of the classic dumbell shape with rounded bar. That being said, this is my "thesis" only and still waiting for some concrete proof in the way of said examples. Anybody??? 
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