Good old Phil.sword scabbard; 4 what type??

Indianajones · 5th November 2011, 11:35 AM

Hello, this is the Phil./malay sword I meant >see pic below< with a similar scabbard as mine, unfortunately they noted just one size. Anybody here has such a sword with scabbard and can share the measurements of it??
The pic in the book is just a bit too far off to be sure its the same and -although my scabbard looks pretty much the same- mine may not be wide enough.

Any other help/suggestions pls??!!?
Thanks in advance and for so far!

VVV · 5th November 2011, 03:02 PM

I have a resembling bolo like in the catalogue.
My sword is 23 1/2" overall with a 17" blade.
I am traveling at the moment so I can't measure the
scabbard but I will be back home in a couple of days.

Michael

Indianajones · 5th November 2011, 07:52 PM

Hi Michael,
oh wow so you have that second example I've ever seen; I have had one of those sword some time ago, but only the sword. Do you know their origin?

I have -later after sold it- found out it was used by kind of malay/Filipino pirates called 'Mayalos'. Only found ONE pic of a Mayalo wearing one (see left guy), but one has to look quite carefully to detect/reckognize. >>its better visible on d original pic that d handle type is d same<<

From your pics I have derived the measure; width of the scabbard would be approx. 2.5" (6.7cm) if I'm correct. This would be much wider than mine, with about a large cm/ half an inch. Though the scabbardstyle and materials used have a lot of similarities indeed.
Maybe those Malolos would also use another narrower kind of blade?!??

Getting close though and lets hope we'l ever find an answer (BEfore I sell it)

Thanks so much for the input!
Regards, Wouter

VVV · 6th November 2011, 12:54 AM

Thanks for the pictures.
It says "malayos" = malays.
AFAIK it's a negrito bolo.

Michael

Indianajones · 6th November 2011, 11:20 AM

Yes you'r right. Pictures were taken in Philippines and those guys indeed look negrito (Negrito chiefs often wore those high hats) but perhaps a group joined Malay seafarers.
Here's the pics addres; its an Adobedocument; 'El imaginario colonial.Fotografía en filipinas durante el periodo espanol'

5th November 2011, 11:35 AM	#1
Indianajones Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 180	Hello, this is the Phil./malay sword I meant >see pic below< with a similar scabbard as mine, unfortunately they noted just one size. Anybody here has such a sword with scabbard and can share the measurements of it?? The pic in the book is just a bit too far off to be sure its the same and -although my scabbard looks pretty much the same- mine may not be wide enough. Any other help/suggestions pls??!!? Thanks in advance and for so far! Attached Images

5th November 2011, 03:02 PM	#2
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	I have a resembling bolo like in the catalogue. My sword is 23 1/2" overall with a 17" blade. I am traveling at the moment so I can't measure the scabbard but I will be back home in a couple of days. Michael Attached Images

5th November 2011, 07:52 PM	#3
Indianajones Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 180	Hi Michael, oh wow so you have that second example I've ever seen; I have had one of those sword some time ago, but only the sword. Do you know their origin? I have -later after sold it- found out it was used by kind of malay/Filipino pirates called 'Mayalos'. Only found ONE pic of a Mayalo wearing one (see left guy), but one has to look quite carefully to detect/reckognize. >>its better visible on d original pic that d handle type is d same<< From your pics I have derived the measure; width of the scabbard would be approx. 2.5" (6.7cm) if I'm correct. This would be much wider than mine, with about a large cm/ half an inch. Though the scabbardstyle and materials used have a lot of similarities indeed. Maybe those Malolos would also use another narrower kind of blade?!?? Getting close though and lets hope we'l ever find an answer (BEfore I sell it) Thanks so much for the input! Regards, Wouter Attached Images

6th November 2011, 12:54 AM	#4
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	Thanks for the pictures. It says "malayos" = malays. AFAIK it's a negrito bolo. Michael

6th November 2011, 11:20 AM	#5
Indianajones Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 180	Yes you'r right. Pictures were taken in Philippines and those guys indeed look negrito (Negrito chiefs often wore those high hats) but perhaps a group joined Malay seafarers. Here's the pics addres; its an Adobedocument; 'El imaginario colonial.Fotografía en filipinas durante el periodo espanol'