Paltik

nacho · 2nd November 2011, 02:38 AM

That looks like an old one -- your dating looks right.

Lots of paltiks being made up to 1972 (Martial Law) all over the Philippines. The best ones made in Danao (Cebu province) and in Pototan (Iloilo). Danao specialized in copies of popular revolvers, while Pototan was known for shotguns (called pugakang).

Spunjer · 2nd November 2011, 03:30 AM

Lol, haven't heard the term pugakang in a long time... Damo gid nga salamat, nong

kino · 2nd November 2011, 05:00 AM

When MiguelDiaz honored Seattle with a visit, we went to the Burke Museum and viewed among other artifacts several rifles from the same era. It has similar construction.
Battara - Batangas? I wish I knew more. Thanks.
I have been to Danao several times before during my childhood, on the way back to Mandaue, we would stop at Lilo-an and pick up a tin of Titay's Rosquillos.

migueldiaz · 3rd November 2011, 02:42 AM

kino, sir thanks for the kind words!

but hey, i'm actually just a dumb tourist

trying to find out what philippine items are in the storage rooms of u.s. museums.

that's a nice paltik you get there, all right. and the jury-rigged part-real, part-dummy (psy-war) phil-am war rifles we saw are here and here.

and while we are at burke museum, here's some more phil. objects -- tabak, 1899 phil. flag, pira, kris (nice blade), kris (a la saber), wavy kampilan, leather armor, and a mysterious object.

Battara · 4th November 2011, 12:57 AM

Great pictures! Lorenz would you post some of these pictures, pretty please!

(links can go away)

Rick · 4th November 2011, 01:20 AM

Damn !
1b is my Pira !!

migueldiaz · 4th November 2011, 10:31 AM

jose, salamat. unfortunately i can't post the pics here at the forum, because the permission granted by the museum (burke) is for the pics' use just for my 'filhistory' blogs.

but am sure you guys can figure out a workaround

rick, salamat din [thanks, also]. whenever i use any of the macau exhibit pics, i explicitly indicate the source (i.e., macao exhibit, or goo.gl/SEuw which link is the shortcut for http://www.arscives.com/historysteel...nes.swords.htm).

though i know the owner of certain swords, i intentionally don't put the name beside the sword. and that's because i consider that knowledge as privileged info, if not confidential info

earlier, i learned or realized that jose (battara) and jon (ibeam) don't mind me putting up their names beside their pieces. so i do that in their case.

but for the rest, until i have been informed that i am allowed to do so, i'll make the attribution of the pic with just the reference to 'macao exhibit' and/or to http://www.arscives.com/historysteel...nes.swords.htm. if i put up the names, then i think that would be a breach of trust. and so i'd rather err on the side of caution by not putting up the names of the sword owner.

just want to make that clarification to everybody, as i do respect a lot the 'fair use' principle, as well as common etiquette.

and am saying all these not because i think rick nor anybody is questioning me or anything!

thanks again to all ...

4th November 2011, 01:20 AM	#6
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,336	Damn ! 1b is my Pira !! Attached Images

2nd November 2011, 02:38 AM	#1
nacho Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Makati Posts: 69	That looks like an old one -- your dating looks right. Lots of paltiks being made up to 1972 (Martial Law) all over the Philippines. The best ones made in Danao (Cebu province) and in Pototan (Iloilo). Danao specialized in copies of popular revolvers, while Pototan was known for shotguns (called pugakang).

2nd November 2011, 03:30 AM	#2
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	Lol, haven't heard the term pugakang in a long time... Damo gid nga salamat, nong

2nd November 2011, 05:00 AM	#3
kino Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,018	When MiguelDiaz honored Seattle with a visit, we went to the Burke Museum and viewed among other artifacts several rifles from the same era. It has similar construction. Battara - Batangas? I wish I knew more. Thanks. I have been to Danao several times before during my childhood, on the way back to Mandaue, we would stop at Lilo-an and pick up a tin of Titay's Rosquillos.

3rd November 2011, 02:42 AM	#4
migueldiaz Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Manila, Phils. Posts: 1,042	kino, sir thanks for the kind words! but hey, i'm actually just a dumb tourist trying to find out what philippine items are in the storage rooms of u.s. museums. that's a nice paltik you get there, all right. and the jury-rigged part-real, part-dummy (psy-war) phil-am war rifles we saw are here and here. and while we are at burke museum, here's some more phil. objects -- tabak, 1899 phil. flag, pira, kris (nice blade), kris (a la saber), wavy kampilan, leather armor, and a mysterious object.

4th November 2011, 12:57 AM	#5
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,270	Great pictures! Lorenz would you post some of these pictures, pretty please! (links can go away)

4th November 2011, 10:31 AM	#7
migueldiaz Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Manila, Phils. Posts: 1,042	jose, salamat. unfortunately i can't post the pics here at the forum, because the permission granted by the museum (burke) is for the pics' use just for my 'filhistory' blogs. but am sure you guys can figure out a workaround rick, salamat din [thanks, also]. whenever i use any of the macau exhibit pics, i explicitly indicate the source (i.e., macao exhibit, or goo.gl/SEuw which link is the shortcut for http://www.arscives.com/historysteel...nes.swords.htm). though i know the owner of certain swords, i intentionally don't put the name beside the sword. and that's because i consider that knowledge as privileged info, if not confidential info earlier, i learned or realized that jose (battara) and jon (ibeam) don't mind me putting up their names beside their pieces. so i do that in their case. but for the rest, until i have been informed that i am allowed to do so, i'll make the attribution of the pic with just the reference to 'macao exhibit' and/or to http://www.arscives.com/historysteel...nes.swords.htm. if i put up the names, then i think that would be a breach of trust. and so i'd rather err on the side of caution by not putting up the names of the sword owner. just want to make that clarification to everybody, as i do respect a lot the 'fair use' principle, as well as common etiquette. and am saying all these not because i think rick nor anybody is questioning me or anything! thanks again to all ...