Old (?) Madurese keris/Pamor Ron Gendhuru Winengku

dewaruci · 12th July 2011, 06:32 PM

I thought the full name pamor 'ron kenduru wengkon", and I have one new keris in my colection, the blade from madura ( i ordered through my friend from madura), and one old keris pamor 'ron kenduru'

Gustav · 13th July 2011, 10:00 AM

Thank you, Dewaruci, for posting these keris. The new keris has remarkably good pamor control at the tip, such perfection probably wasn't achievable with old pamor forging methods.

dewaruci · 13th July 2011, 08:22 PM

Thank's to you too ... Gustav,
I think I've seen perfection like this with the integrity of 95%. a keris from the era Pakubuwono (PB) belongs to my friend. In my knowledge, perfection like that also exist in old kris, but I've seen, not maintained, severe corrosion, many iron pamor are apart or lost, so that we can not see anymore the perfection.
kris with pamor ron kenduru / genduru is one popular motif pamor, was difficult made and a lot of the complexity, but it also attracted many collectors or dealers, and the price is relatively expensive.
Ron = leaf, kenduru = small palm type plant.
post a photo kris kalamisani Surakarta era from the book of 'Encyclopedia of Keris - by Bambang Harsrinuksmo' might be useful.

Gustav · 23rd July 2011, 06:05 PM

I just want briefly to bring in focus the several ways to design the "white" parts of this pamor. There seem to be very different solutions, from classical parallel lines till a twisted pamor. On my keris there is a loop in each "palm leaf", interesting feature is, the layers inside this loop become there strongly diagonal, one almost get a feel of pamor mlumah there.

How is this done?

12th July 2011, 06:32 PM	#1
dewaruci Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Central Java Posts: 13	I thought the full name pamor 'ron kenduru wengkon", and I have one new keris in my colection, the blade from madura ( i ordered through my friend from madura), and one old keris pamor 'ron kenduru' Attached Images

13th July 2011, 08:22 PM	#3
dewaruci Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Central Java Posts: 13	Thank's to you too ... Gustav, I think I've seen perfection like this with the integrity of 95%. a keris from the era Pakubuwono (PB) belongs to my friend. In my knowledge, perfection like that also exist in old kris, but I've seen, not maintained, severe corrosion, many iron pamor are apart or lost, so that we can not see anymore the perfection. kris with pamor ron kenduru / genduru is one popular motif pamor, was difficult made and a lot of the complexity, but it also attracted many collectors or dealers, and the price is relatively expensive. Ron = leaf, kenduru = small palm type plant. post a photo kris kalamisani Surakarta era from the book of 'Encyclopedia of Keris - by Bambang Harsrinuksmo' might be useful. Attached Images Last edited by dewaruci; 14th July 2011 at 03:44 AM.

23rd July 2011, 06:05 PM	#4
Gustav Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,273	I just want briefly to bring in focus the several ways to design the "white" parts of this pamor. There seem to be very different solutions, from classical parallel lines till a twisted pamor. On my keris there is a loop in each "palm leaf", interesting feature is, the layers inside this loop become there strongly diagonal, one almost get a feel of pamor mlumah there. How is this done? Attached Images

13th July 2011, 10:00 AM	#2
Gustav Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,273	Thank you, Dewaruci, for posting these keris. The new keris has remarkably good pamor control at the tip, such perfection probably wasn't achievable with old pamor forging methods.