Tenegre

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by Robert Coleman

Hello Detlef,
I am looking forward to seeing the new pictures of this very nice piece. When you post them could you please also post the measurements, total length of the sword, blade length, width at the widest point and the thickness of the blade at the hilt? Again congratulations on a very nice score.

Robert

Hello Robert,

here at first the measurements. Total length: 61 cm (24 inch), blade: 45,5 (17.9), width at the widest point: 4,5 (1.8) and the thickness near the hilt is 1,6 mm (0,06).
I have oiled the wooden parts with a wood oil and the leather with dubbin and the blade I oiled with WD40.
Some questions to you and all others:
I think that there is a missing guard down under the handle, what do you think?
Shall I clean the brass parts? I personally think it is better to keep them like this.
Shall I clean the blade more?

Here some additional pictures taken with flash light.

Regards,

Detlef

[kai]

Hello Detlef,

here at first the measurements. Total length: 61 cm (24 inch), blade: 45,5 (17.9), width at the widest point: 4,5 (1.8) and the thickness near the hilt is 1,6 mm (0,06).

Something must be wrong with the thickness - 1.6mm would be flimsy and the pics suggest otherwise...

I think that there is a missing guard down under the handle, what do you think?

It doesn't look like it ever had a metal guard (requires a reasonably well filed blade where the tang meets) but guard disks made from horn were the norm. Does anyone has pics of tangs of such swords?

My best guess is that the blade got just sloppily fitted when the rehilting was done. Should be fairly easy to get a better fit if you reattach the blade.

Shall I clean the brass parts? I personally think it is better to keep them like this.

Most likely these were kept polished/shiny. Nothing wrong to go by personal preference though, I guess.

Shall I clean the blade more?

I'd remove the blade (modern glue) and give it a quick etch: it looks nice enough to possibly be laminated. If it is, some more polishing and careful etching might be warranted.

Regards,
Kai

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by kai

Hello Detlef,


Something must be wrong with the thickness - 1.6mm would be flimsy and the pics suggest otherwise...



It doesn't look like it ever had a metal guard (requires a reasonably well filed blade where the tang meets) but guard disks made from horn were the norm. Does anyone has pics of tangs of such swords?

My best guess is that the blade got just sloppily fitted when the rehilting was done. Should be fairly easy to get a better fit if you reattach the blade.



Most likely these were kept polished/shiny. Nothing wrong to go by personal preference though, I guess.



I'd remove the blade (modern glue) and give it a quick etch: it looks nice enough to possibly be laminated. If it is, some more polishing and careful etching might be warranted.

Regards,
Kai

Hello Kai,

you are correct, my mistake by the thickness of the blade, 6,1 mm is the correct measurement.
I will dismantling the handle and follow your advice about etching and reattaching the handle.
The compression at the blade tip was very very minor, like someone bump the blade on the ground, look the picture, the shape of the blade isn't changed.

Thank you very much,

Detlef