Small axes for ID

Runjeet Singh · 14th May 2011, 09:34 PM

DhaDha,
You have a great memory! I had forgot about that one, yeah it was a nice piece, very elegant. I cannot remember the exact dimensions but 27" works out close to the proportions in the photos.

Gene,
Here is the full image if you want to get a better idea of the detail on the shaft. Thanks both,
Runjeet

Runjeet Singh · 14th May 2011, 09:48 PM

I must visit my own site more regularly

.....the small axe which DhaDha reminded us of is on page two of the Armour and Polearms page, along with another one Gene which you may find interesting.

Thanks,
Runjeet

Atlantia · 15th May 2011, 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by runjeet@akaalarms.com

I must visit my own site more regularly

.....the small axe which DhaDha reminded us of is on page two of the Armour and Polearms page, along with another one Gene which you may find interesting.

Thanks,
Runjeet

Hi Runjeet,

Thanks for that, I've got a good idea of what to aim for now.
Just had a look on a certain auction site and there are plenty of 4'-5' o Staffs in a variety of wood, that should make a good pair of shafts for these.

Thanks again.
Best
Gene

Ibrahiim al Balooshi · 15th May 2011, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Atlantia

Hi Runjeet,

Thanks for that, I've got a good idea of what to aim for now.
Just had a look on a certain auction site and there are plenty of 4'-5' o Staffs in a variety of wood, that should make a good pair of shafts for these.

Thanks again.
Best
Gene

Nice axes you have. I collect arabian axes from the Mussandam peninsular, at the gateway to the Gulf. The tribal group there (Shihuh) have an axe which doubles up as a walking stick utility item/defensive weapon and badge of office icon. It appears to originate from the Persian Luristani axe. The shaft almost 3 feet long and various sizes of axehead from about 2 inches long to about 3 and a half.

Atlantia · 15th May 2011, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Ibrahiim al Balooshi

Nice axes you have. I collect arabian axes from the Mussandam peninsular, at the gateway to the Gulf. The tribal group there (Shihuh) have an axe which doubles up as a walking stick utility item/defensive weapon and badge of office icon. It appears to originate from the Persian Luristani axe. The shaft almost 3 feet long and various sizes of axehead from about 2 inches long to about 3 and a half.

Hi Ibrahiim,

Very impressive collection you've got there!
Interesting that one of yours has a very similarly shaped distinctive 'hammer' back to the ones on mine (below)

Best
Gene

Tim Simmons · 15th May 2011, 04:48 PM

These are European. East European. Hungarian/Romanian or other east European herders weapon tools.

Atlantia · 15th May 2011, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Tim Simmons

These are European. East European. Hungarian/Romanian or other east European herders weapon tools.

C'mon Tim

European is OK, but herders weapons!!!

Do you have any references or examples?

Best
Gene

Jim McDougall · 15th May 2011, 05:29 PM

The stippled decoration on the axe face, I agree with Runjeet, does seem to correspond to this kind of decoration in India in later period, 19th century. It should be noted that it is also a characteristic of markings on the weapons in Bikaner armoury in Rajasthan, which simply reveals that the punched dot style for decoration and inscription was popular in these regions....I am not suggesting these are from Bikaner, nor armoury applied, only the style of decoration.

I recall seeing the small head, long shaft type utilitarian walking axes that Tim has mentioned for Eastern European regions, as well as similar as mentioned by Ibrahim on the Arabian peninsula.

While serving as walking staffs these certainly would double as weapons much in the sense of the well known sword canes of Europe....so you're right Gene, I think you got a weapon here

I think shorter shafts would simply indicate more of a belt axe.

All best regards,
Jim

14th May 2011, 09:34 PM	#1
Runjeet Singh Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Warwickshire, England Posts: 150	DhaDha, You have a great memory! I had forgot about that one, yeah it was a nice piece, very elegant. I cannot remember the exact dimensions but 27" works out close to the proportions in the photos. Gene, Here is the full image if you want to get a better idea of the detail on the shaft. Thanks both, Runjeet Last edited by Rick; 17th May 2011 at 01:25 AM. Reason: link to commercial site deleted; please upload pictures only .

14th May 2011, 09:48 PM	#2
Runjeet Singh Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Warwickshire, England Posts: 150	I must visit my own site more regularly .....the small axe which DhaDha reminded us of is on page two of the Armour and Polearms page, along with another one Gene which you may find interesting. Thanks, Runjeet Last edited by Rick; 17th May 2011 at 01:20 AM. Reason: deleted; commercial link; upload pictures to site please .

15th May 2011, 04:48 PM	#6
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,917	These are European. East European. Hungarian/Romanian or other east European herders weapon tools.

15th May 2011, 05:29 PM	#8
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 10,644	The stippled decoration on the axe face, I agree with Runjeet, does seem to correspond to this kind of decoration in India in later period, 19th century. It should be noted that it is also a characteristic of markings on the weapons in Bikaner armoury in Rajasthan, which simply reveals that the punched dot style for decoration and inscription was popular in these regions....I am not suggesting these are from Bikaner, nor armoury applied, only the style of decoration. I recall seeing the small head, long shaft type utilitarian walking axes that Tim has mentioned for Eastern European regions, as well as similar as mentioned by Ibrahim on the Arabian peninsula. While serving as walking staffs these certainly would double as weapons much in the sense of the well known sword canes of Europe....so you're right Gene, I think you got a weapon here I think shorter shafts would simply indicate more of a belt axe. All best regards, Jim