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Old 7th April 2011, 11:30 AM   #1
Gavin Nugent
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Yes, but we can't use the likely Ottoman/Arab/Persian/Afghan/Mughal origin of this blade to argue it's origin from SEA, can we? Moreover, imported blades in Viet dressing seem to be Chinese or Thai/Lao/Khmer while blades imported from the western Islamic sphere seem to be rare as hen's teeth. (I can't recall any...)


I see your point; however, IMHO the similarities are not close enough to support the notion of Viet craftmanship/style: the construction is very different as are the details of decoration. (Guards on Viet swords seem to be either of European or Japanese influence.)

I'd also stipulate that there is not enough similarity to link this guard construction with the very conservative Aceh style. I guess that this hilt variant is more likely a direct descendant of Indian/Afghan/Persian/Arab/Ottoman hilts.

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I see it more wholely Kastane in essence than a fanciful hybrid...although..part of me still considers the above offerings as feasible under the facts known about SEA swords types, trading and cultural interfacing.
The mask, mane and size of the hilt do say Sri Lanka, the blade, well there aren't many places Islamic type blades aren't seen...
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Old 8th April 2011, 08:41 AM   #2
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Hello Gav,

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The mask, mane and size of the hilt do say Sri Lanka
Yes, I'd also love to get more input why the people at Leeds believe the hilt to not originate from SL. It's certainly not a typical kastane hilt but the long Singhalese-European interaction may account for some local variety...

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