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Old 25th January 2011, 09:52 PM   #1
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Old 26th January 2011, 01:04 AM   #2
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Hi Trond,

Based on the grounds of Celtan's and 'Nando's brilliant inputs, I just wish to provide my opinion on dating these two items.

The plug bayonet can be safely dated to ca. 1700-1720 as it is already brass mounted instead of iron, and the quillon finials are no longer shaped as turnscrew and hammer for the barrel pins. The blade is recycled from a 16th c. sword and cut down respectively to dagger size.

The left hand dagger is of ca. 1580-90's date.

Both are preserved in optimum condition.


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Old 26th January 2011, 08:10 AM   #3
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Thanx! They are evidently European, but does somebody have any idea about what country they the come from?

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Old 26th January 2011, 04:06 PM   #4
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Hi Trond,

I am quite sure that the plug bayonet is French or Italian, re-using a 16th c. German blade, while the dagger doubtlessly is of German (Saxon?) origin.

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Old 26th January 2011, 07:47 PM   #5
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Thanx again, I have a serious lot to learn on blades.

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Old 27th January 2011, 10:20 PM   #6
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Brilliant? Not even in the darkest of nights!

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(of course, I meant Nando's...)

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Thank you kindly Trond, we are here to learn from each other.

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Hi Trond,

Based on the grounds of Celtan's and 'Nando's brilliant inputs, I just wish to provide my opinion on dating these two items.

The plug bayonet can be safely dated to ca. 1700-1720 as it is already brass mounted instead of iron, and the quillon finials are no longer shaped as turnscrew and hammer for the barrel pins. The blade is recycled from a 16th c. sword and cut down respectively to dagger size.

The left hand dagger is of ca. 1580-90's date.

Both are preserved in optimum condition.


Best,
Michael
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